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Corgana

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/r/StarTrek founder and primary steward from 2008-2021

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Is there a Linux for people who are deeply entrenched in how Windows works?

Zorin is this, though your choice of Mint is good too. It will not help you understand docker though.

If you’re trying to do Audibookshelf on a home server CasaOS made docker super easy for me.

Corgana,
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Just because I haven’t seen anyone mention it, the distro that finally allowed me to make the switch was Zorin. It is extremely noob friendly for people coming from windows and the first time (for me) I had a linux that “just worked”.

I tried, I really did

I’ve been an IT professional for 20 years now, but I’ve mainly dealt with Windows. I’ve worked with Linux servers through out the years, but never had Linux as a daily driver. And I decided it was time to change. I only had 2 requirements. One, I need to be able to use my Nvidia 3080 ti for local LLM and I need to be able...

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someone proficient in windows goes back to being a dumb newbie is gonna be frustrating as heck.

This was me. I kept thinking Linux was making things “overly complicated” until I really stopped to consider how extremely complicated it is in Windows or MacOS to do anything, we’re just all used to it. Once I re-framed my perspective to that of “a noob that was learning” it made it so much less frustrating and now after learning I see that Linux in most ways does things so much simper.

Now I don’t think it’s ease-of-use issues that prevent people from going with Linux, it’s switching costs. Few have time to learn a new system. Even if it is the easiest to learn.

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Anyone here have any experience with Anytype?

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I’ve been interested in Anytype, it’s supposed to be like Notion, which I haven’t used either. You might want to check it out. I’m also trying to get away from Google Keep.

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I seriously don’t understand how anyone from windows is going to find stock GNOME even remotely intuitive or useful.

GNOME is a very easy transition from MacOS, however. There are even themes to make it almost indistinguishable.

https://github.com/vinceliuice/WhiteSur-gtk-theme/raw/pictures/pictures/macbook.png

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haha right! Most people don’t even understand that MacOS is a thing on it’s own, they just think it’s a Mac. They have never needed to make the distinction between software and hardware. If you were to suggest they “change to Linux”, they won’t have any frame of reference for what this means. Heck, most people still call Android phones “droids”, or if they know anything, “Pixels” and “Samsungs” without knowing that “Android” is it’s own thing. Macbooks have USB-C now but few users know that you can use an Apple charger to charge anything USB-C. It’s like back in the 90s you would frequently hear people not making the distinction between “monitor” and “computer”.

Don’t get me wrong, I think consumer education is the only plausible way out of this proprietary mess, but the further society moves away from PCs having discrete interchangeable components the harder concepts like “operating system” are going to be to understand for anyone not specifically seeking out that knowledge.

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I hear this a lot but in my experience the Framework is often in the same range and sometimes slightly cheaper. Right now a framework with i7-1360P and 16GB Ram is $1469. An X1 carbon with a (slightly slower) cpu is $400 more. Ryzen is similar. Not hating on Thinkpads but the Framework is a lot more competitive than you’ll often hear and the upgradeability is obviously a massive financial incentive too.

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That makes sense. Buying used is always going to be more economical (and ecological) than new, no matter how “anti waste” it is.

Possible to have different desktop folders for different workspaces?

I am a “messy desk” person and like to have a big open visual space for all the pseudo-temporary files belonging to whatever project I’m working on at a given time. It would be nice to have a workspace specifically dedicated for “work” and still be able to create a fresh one when needed, without having to “put all...

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Would this mean switching to Kubuntu? (still kinda new to this world)

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I guess maybe I don’t understand what workspaces are? Because I’ve been operating under the assumption that I’ve been using multiple workspaces with GNOME for a long time now.

Are you saying the GNOME update in April will each workspace to have it’s own unique desktop folder?

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Ah very nice, I appreciate the explainer, thank you.

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Gentle reminder to everyone that support for ends in about 90 weeks. Many computers can't upgrade to Win 11 so here are your options:

  1. Continue on Win 10 but with higher security risks.
  2. Buy new and expensive hardware that supports Win11.
  3. Try a beginner friendly distro like . It only takes about two months to acclimate.

@nixCraft @linux @windowscentralbot

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Yep, when you make a Windows installer USB with Rufus it has the option to disable TPM requirement and the need for a Microsoft account.

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Tootally. 95% of smartphone screen time is entertainment or distractions of some form. Not something we (or kids) need to carry around at all times.

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Dial-up and a CRT implies you had to learn a little bit about computers in order to use them for entertainment. A baby can use a modern smartphone. It’s not “preparing” them for anything beides being unable to self-pacify without consumption.

Corgana,
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Texting addiction was a thing.

It was? Honestly asking. Texting for me was cumbersone (T9) and .10c each (recieving too!) For my friends and I, texts were a means to an end (meeting up usually), not a place to have conversations.

You’re not wrong about ads though, the main difference today is that many apps are engineered to be addictive.

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I played many systems before the Dreamcast but I consider that controller my first.

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Go with Mastodon. Bluesky is just Twitter but run by crypto fanatics. It’s not decentralized or nonprofit or safeguarded against enshittification.

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Mastodon has significantly more active and diverse users than BS and none of the garbage.

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Bluesky is “decentralized” in the way that crypto is in that the biggest fish (bluesky.social) controls everything.

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Weird to call a place “chill” that gives Nazis a home in the first place imo.

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AT is not truly decentralized like activitypub. It’s similar to crypto where the majority stakeholder (in this case, bluesky the for profit company) controls the network. There are not “instances” run by community leaders, just free hosting.

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It’s nothing to do with that, they made the AT protocol because is structured in a way that ensures that bluesky (the company) will always control the network. They wouldn’t be able to keep control with ActivityPub, it’s the same reason Threads will never implement it.

All the stuff about account portability is a distraction. Think about it: where would one move an account to anyway? Another BS node? Why? Unlike Mastodon instances there is no functional difference.

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First of all, “enshittification” refers to monopolistic business practices, not… account portability or whatever you’re trying to say. It can’t be engineered away. Mastodon (the company) is nonprofit, BlueSky is for-profit. Furthermore, unlike Mastodon, there is no functional difference between BS servers, so the “freedom” to change is a moot point when bluesky (the company) controls everything.

Also the CEO cut her fintech teeth on cryptocurrency. Saying she’s not a fan of crypto is just plain wrong.

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My instance doesn’t have Nazis

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Here’s a doc for ya: rys.io/en/167.html

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Ugh so true. I frequently describe Mastodon as “community-led nonprofit” to help get it through to the people who think Threads or BlueSky will be different.

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Yes, you’ve hit the nail on the head. It’s contextual moderation that makes a space worth being on. This is a good piece that sums up the differences.

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The network is the thing that’s controlled by BS, a for-profit company who’s CEO is a crypto fan.

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the more that instances grow

If an instance grows beyond it’s ability to quickly identify and ban Nazis then it’s bad at moderating itself and will probably be defederated from by instance admins that are good at moderating.

If the users are driving out Nazis as you say, then it kind of implies that the admins are either OK with them being there, or didn’t get to them quickly.

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If the users are the ones chasing Nazis away it demonstrates a failure (or lack) of moderation, yes.

If you’re at a restaurant and the customers have to kick out some guy running around spitting in everyone’s food because the managemenrt sat idly by, that’s a failure in my view and I’m not going to spend my time there.

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nobody said they did

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And no rules against it apparently

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Wow, very nice. These will look great with Launchbox’s 3D boxes.

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You’re absolutely not wrong, but I think they’re making the case that it’s like tobacco or gambling which society kinda agrees is stupid but allows adults to have the freedom to indulge in. Honestly I think it’s a good comparison.

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To an extent, but it’s also not like tobacco or gambling are wholly uncountable in the way that Meta largely is. I would be much happier with companies like Meta if their products at least came with a warning about potential for addiction/depression etc. When they pretend they are places to “connect” and have “friends” it feels kinda like if a casino was allowed to present itself as an “investment opportunity”.

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They’ve made huge improvements to onboarding over the past few months, it’s as easy as any other app now:

  1. Download Mastodon app
  2. Make acccount

It’s literally that easy now. Anything to do with Federation (like following other users) is also hidden to the background unless you go looking for it.

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And it’s hardly five minutes anymore. If using the official app sign up is as fast as Twitter or any other app.

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There actually hasn’t been a “choose an instance thing” for a few months now. If using the official app sign up is as straightforward as Twitter or any other app. Similarly, if using the official app following accounts is equally straightforward.

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No but the ones employed by corporate social media companies are and that’s what the guy you’re replying to was referring to.

Corgana,
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Right, that used to be how it was done, but it’s not anymore. The very first result in the iPhone app store and Google play store is the official app. The official app has not prompted the user to choose an instance since May of this year.

Many of the other questions (like about data and privacy) are extremely valid but also apply to any app, so by that logic Twitter for example would have considerably more steps than Mastodon simply by virtue of a significantly more complicated TOS.

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It’s easy to forget how difficult this stuff can be when you are knowledgeable on it.

This is SO true, when I rediscovered retro emulation a couple years ago Retroarch was an impossible-to-navigate mess. Now I know it very well but I try to remind myself that a lot of non commercial software is not at all obvious to many newcomers.

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Yeah, they will pay lip service to nonprofit/decentralized to keep the tech people from shutting it down immediatley, but it will never (can never) be Mastodon.

It’s the same thing Threads did with ActivityPub. I kinda doubt it was ever seriously discussed, just wanted the story around it to be about ActivityPub and not how it was just a boring Twitter clone.

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What I want to know is what kind of soulless person bereft of imagination would create a BS instance when it’s essentially just free hosting for a for-profit company.

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