As a resident of the bible belt, subject to the whims of superstitious state legistators and crackpot christian lunatics, I have to find some escape. I am BY FAR in the minority where I live. Like, I know maybe 4 other people who are unapologetically atheist. The rest are on the spectrum from “I love Jesus’ teachings, but I’m not like, ya know, like super religious” to full blown christian fanatical psychopath.
So yeah, I enjoy memes dunking on religion. If you want something else in this community, feel free to make a post. Probably leave off the condescending sarcasm for best results.
Yes, atheism is not a belief, it’s a realisation. One day you realise that you don’t believe, that you are simply not convinced. You don’t decide to be an atheist, you don’t belief in atheism, you simply can’t make yourself belief something that you are not convinced of. It’s not in your control, you haven’t been provided with sufficient (or any) evidence and realise that the label of atheist accurately describes your state of mind.
I just like to make fun of religions, so there are mainly only memes from my side. If you are missing something, you are of course welcome to contribute to the community.
Counterpoint: Being atheist in a very secular country (as I do) is nothing special or controversial. The vast majority of people like this have no need/interest in a forum like this because of this fact.
Online spaces like this in English are dominated by people who grew up in places where being atheist is counter to the local culture (the majority from the USA). Many are basically cultural refugees looking for a safe space to vent.
You demand the place be better, stop posting certain content and why no one is posting what you want to see.
My question: Why is this your first post here? What have you brought to the table?
Bravo
This after saying this:
community for secularism, rights of atheists, support for new
tags you as "Bit of an arsehole" to me.
Why not hold yourself to the standards you have set for others?
The answer is theological compatibilism. The idea that people actually have free will, while some fate or divine plan exists.
people will always choose what they want-- and what they want is determined by (and consistent with) their moral nature. Man freely makes choices, but those choices are determined by the condition of his heart and mind […]. God’s involvement: God is said to influence our desires, and thus is able to have exhaustive control of all that goes on.
The paragraph about moral responsibility was interesting:
In general, people agree that the one with uncaused action is held responsible for an action. Not the ball that was caused to roll, but the person who was not caused to push is held responsible for the rolling of the ball. However, according to this worldview, the same does not apply to humans. Although a man is considered unable to choose against his desires, which are caused by his sin nature or God’s intervention, the moral responsibility of sin lies with him. He chose to do it, therefore he is held responsible. Not what caused him to choose, but he that chooses is held responsible.
This understanding of moral responsibility absolves God of authorship of sin; man, as caused by fall, is naturally “inclined to all evil” (Heidelberg Catechism, Q.7).
I guess in the end it does not have to make sense anyways, because belief.
That’s not an actual answer though, it’s just a politician’s “answer” and then pretending afterwards that the question was answered. Free will means you can change your mind. If you can change your mind, it’s possible that you would change your mind at the very last second. However, if it’s possible to know ahead of time with 100% certainty what someone will do, then they don’t actually have the ability to change their mind at the last second, and any concept of choice is an illusion.
The second quote only addresses why god isn’t at fault if free will exists, and therefore doesn’t address the issue
Yeah it’s always upsetting when these spaces turn in to “you believe this so you’re an idiot” type of angry atheist spaces. It’s not productive. I’d like to see more active discussions of Christian nationalism, meetings, etc.
Yeah, honestly I don’t give a shit if people have religious beliefs; I just don’t is all. I think religion helps to give people community and hope, which are things I think many people lack. The only problem I have with religion is attempting to legislate based on religion or otherwise attempting to force your religion-endorsed behaviors on those who aren’t members
Yeah, I’m not in a hurry to die. I love my life, and I’m very fortunate to be in that position. But “living” forever sounds like hell to me. Especially if I would have to spend it with those idiots.
Many are bi, so for them it’s a choice on whether or not to act on it. So they project that it’s a choice for everyone. And the gays are choosing it because they’re lustful or sinful or weak or whatever.
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