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novibe, in Stop asking

The demiurge hates us. That’s why.

God is the Universe, and he loves us. He does provide, but he isn’t a being or person, he doesn’t act like that.

Everything that happens is just part of his dream.

bermuda,

Got some weird dreams

novibe,

Well yeah shit do be crazy around these parts (aka the universe).

I_am_10_squirrels, in Nice stories bro

Number 6 is technically correct. On a human timescale, the sun does stand still. On a universe timescale, it’s moved around a bit.

Zozano,

I think the implication is that the sun was in the same position in the sky, meaning the earth stopped spinning without everyone being launched sideways at 1,000mp/h

Also, how do you have a ‘day’ without the earths rotation? Do they just mean 24 hours? It’s like the days in Genesis, apparently the sun was made on the fourth DAY. That one’s a head scratcher. Also, God made light on day 1. What light? God’s fucking flashlight?

And one final interesting fact, our sun is actually moving at 200km/s, as is earth, and everything else in our solar system, as it moves around the milky way.

Debunking shit in the Bible really feels like you’re that guy who is deliberately looking for plotholes while watching a movie and everyone else going “shut up you’re ruining it”, but you know the movie is trash and makes no fucking sense.

excral,

And one final interesting fact, our sun is actually moving at 200km/s, as is earth, and everything else in our solar system, as it moves around the milky way.

To be fair, nothing is ever stationary except in very specific frames of reference. I think it’s usually fair to say that the sun is stationary because most of the time when we discuss observations involving the sun, those observation happen within our solar system so the sun is the frame of reference. Otherwise you’d have to constantly point out that a house, tree, mountain or whatever is not stationary, because it moves with the earth.

Zozano,

Yep. Just being pedantic for the sake of it lol. A lot of people don’t realize our solar system is flying through space at astronomical speed.

I suppose technically the only thing which is stationary is the center of the universe.

menzel, in oh crap....

Wait?!? Unicorns can’t fly?

PenguinJuice, in You almost got me

To be fair: millions of innocent children dying is Satan and those who follow Satan's doctrines. They are the ones causing the pain and suffering.

xigoi,
@xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Who created Satan?

GregoryTheGreat,

Guilty of the sins of their fathers?

Spzi, in Free will

From en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theological_determinism#Fre… and www.theopedia.com/compatibilism:

The answer is theological compatibilism. The idea that people actually have free will, while some fate or divine plan exists.

people will always choose what they want-- and what they want is determined by (and consistent with) their moral nature. Man freely makes choices, but those choices are determined by the condition of his heart and mind […]. God’s involvement: God is said to influence our desires, and thus is able to have exhaustive control of all that goes on.

The paragraph about moral responsibility was interesting:

In general, people agree that the one with uncaused action is held responsible for an action. Not the ball that was caused to roll, but the person who was not caused to push is held responsible for the rolling of the ball. However, according to this worldview, the same does not apply to humans. Although a man is considered unable to choose against his desires, which are caused by his sin nature or God’s intervention, the moral responsibility of sin lies with him. He chose to do it, therefore he is held responsible. Not what caused him to choose, but he that chooses is held responsible.

This understanding of moral responsibility absolves God of authorship of sin; man, as caused by fall, is naturally “inclined to all evil” (Heidelberg Catechism, Q.7).

I guess in the end it does not have to make sense anyways, because belief.

NattyNatty2x4, (edited )

That’s not an actual answer though, it’s just a politician’s “answer” and then pretending afterwards that the question was answered. Free will means you can change your mind. If you can change your mind, it’s possible that you would change your mind at the very last second. However, if it’s possible to know ahead of time with 100% certainty what someone will do, then they don’t actually have the ability to change their mind at the last second, and any concept of choice is an illusion.

The second quote only addresses why god isn’t at fault if free will exists, and therefore doesn’t address the issue

jayrhacker, in incest

And that's before Lot's daughters got him drunk so they could… prevent the extinction of the species.

j4yt33,

Yes daddy Lot

Erikatharsis, in logic
@Erikatharsis@kbin.social avatar

Alright, to play the devil's advocate: the vast, vast majority of eggs that are sold are unfertilized, candled, and taken before there's any real chance of a visible embryo forming, even if they have been fertilized; and I don't think that even for the few fertilized eggs that do get sold and eaten, that an unnoticeably tiny bunch of stem cells could properly be called "meat", anyways.

Brocken40,

Alright, to play God’s advocate: every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great! If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate! And an egg is just a big lady sperm!

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