My little brother loves the dualboot setup I installed for him. He says "It's like iOS"

My brother is 12 and just like other people of his age he can’t use a computer properly because he is only familiar with mobile devices and dumbed-down computers

I recently dual-booted Fedora KDE and Windows 10 on his laptop. Showed him Discovery and told him, “This is the app store. Everything you’ll ever need is here, and if you can’t find something just tell me and I’ll add it there”. I also set up bottles telling him “Your non-steam games are here”. He installed Steam and other apps himself

I guess he is a better Linux user than Linus Sebastian since he installed Steam without breaking his OS…

The tech support questions and stuff like “Can you install this for me?” or “Is this a virus?” dropped to zero. He only asks me things like “What was the name of PowerPoint for Linux” once in a while

After a week I have hardly ever seen my brother use Windows. He says Fedora is “like iOS” and he absolutely loved it

I use Arch and he keeps telling me “Why are you doing that nerdy terminal stuff just use Fedora”. He also keeps explaining to me why Fedora better than my “nerd OS”

init,
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“Why are you doing that nerdy terminal stuff just use Fedora”.

Because nerdy terminal shit is cool.

explaining to me why Fedora better than my “nerd OS”

😂

pineapplelover,

Put my sibling on ubuntu and all they ever do is watch tv shows and stuff in the browser.

z00s,

I still maintained that Linus fucked up those Linux videos on purpose. Not sure why but for a guy in the tech industry he really played dumb.

Really pissed me off. What has he got against Linux?

gamebuster,

Blaming Linus for breaking Linux is what’s wrong with the Linux community. You guys are so blind to the obvious glaring issues with Linux Desktop that any time something goes wrong, it must have been the user who did something stupid.

Sure, you CAN get it working the first time without issues, but the amount of times I tried Linux Desktop without any issues is 0. Every single time I installed Linux, I had some kind of breaking issue. I have tried multiple times between 2007 and 2021 and I’ll likely try again soon, but don’t kid yourself that people “play dumb” or something. Linux is as stable as the user makes it, and with instable, fragile, incompetent users (like most new users) come a fragile OS that cannot be relied upon.

I’m 100% sure if I try to install Ubuntu Desktop right now on my desktop, I’ll again encounter some BS thing that just doesn’t work like it should. Maybe the audio won’t work, or bluetooth just drops out constantly, or it randomly freezes, or YT videos don’t play at any decent framerate. Maybe everything works fine, but in 4 days some random thing doesn’t. And once some thing doesn’t work, you’ll have to waddle through a sea of sudo commands that you have no clue what they’re doing and you either fix the issue or break something else.

Note that I specifically mention Linux Desktop every time. Linux as a Server is great.

z00s,

don’t blame Linus

incompetent users

Which one is it?

All those claims you make about things not working in 2023 is ridiculous. I’ve been using various distros since 2009 and maybe you could have claimed those things back then. But if you can’t make Linux work at least as easily as windows in 2023, that’s on you.

Linus demonstrated his willful ignorance right from when he ignored that warning in the command prompt.

Linux: WARNING DONT DO THIS Linus: well I guess I’m going to have to do that. Linux: breaks Linus: Linux sucks

Fanboys: LINUX SUX LINUX SUX LINUX SUX LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

hare_ware,

He also keeps explaining to me why Fedora better than my “nerd OS”

Complaining about what works for other people? It is tradition. It’s innate Linux user behavior.

peppy,

He’s learning

supermurs,

Such a wholesome story 😊

So happy to hear that he is enjoying Linux and you guys are doing things together.

shirro,

My kids have been gaming all day on Steam. They have zero intellectual curiosity about the system they are using. They have been using Arch for years but it might as well be a console or Mac. They log in and launch a web browser, Steam or a Minecraft launcher and that is it. It makes me a bit sad.

sneezycat,
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To be fair, my curiosity for the system when I was a kid came from having a win98 computer without internet or any games installed, other than some freemium CDs and a neo-geo emulator.

I’d spend time just going through the menus, and I had no idea how anything worked, but it was interesting just seeing what was there. Also I spoke no English at all, so many things were out of my reach/understanding.

If I had Steam and Minecraft? I wouldn’t have explored the OS so much. Probably. That stemmed out of boredom as much as from curiosity.

flashgnash,

The fact that they’re gaming on it means they’ll know how to use it later

When I was that age I didn’t think much about the system I was using, it doesn’t really appeal to kids but they’ll still be learning

walkercricket,

You have to give them a reason to get interested in the OS and the programs they’re using. I gave Linux a try because I was concerned about privacy and I wanted to use more ethical and user respecting OS and software than what I used at that time. Linux and the FOSS world was an obvious choice for me. Custom ROM on Android was sort of the bridge which allowed me to transition. If it wasn’t for that, I would still be on Windows and I wouldn’t learn that much on how an operating system works and what differentiate them, aside from the look. The fact they’re kids or that they play games have nothing to do with it: a lot of adults don’t know either what type of OS they’re using, despite it being in their best interest. The problem is that we don’t give or show them the reason they should be interested, or at least be curious about it and most of time, before people get a degree, we end up killing their curiosity.

As they play Minecraft, you can advise them to switch to Prism Launcher instead of the minecraft launcher, especially if they mod the game, it’s much better for that. It could be a good start.

super_user_do,
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My grandfather uses Ubuntu (bad distro bruh) and he loves it

SlovenianSocket,
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My elderly mother has been using Linux for almost 10 years. I don’t think I’ve ever gotten a single tech support phone call from her for it

BrandoCalrissian9229,

As someone who is interested in starting into the world of linux, was having a second hard drive necessary for creating a dual boot system or were you able to do it all on one hard drive?

mbryson,
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I had the same thought process seeing the software repository on Linux Mint for the first time. It really is set up like a MacOS or general Appstore interface.

Happy for your brother getting comfortable with Linux so quickly! Way to go!

teawrecks,

He also keeps explaining to me why Fedora better than my “nerd OS”

lol he’s already a true linux user.

But probably best to have a talk about gatekeeping linux though. There’s no wrong way to run linux.

Noobg,

I mean, there are definitely wrong ways to run Linux, like a single root user with no password, but your point is well taken. If Linux fanboys would keep the subjective gatekeeping to themselves the new user experience would be much more pleasant.

theshatterstone54,

Or a disabled root account with unconfigured sudo and/or doas

vsis,
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haha I thought exactly the same thing lol He’s linuxplained why his distro is better. That’s the spirit.

FermatsLastAccount,

My 11 year old brother had been using PopOS for a while. Unfortunately Roblox recently intentionally broke Wine support and I had to put Windows on his computer.

nomadjoanne,

An amazing story! I doubt I ever have kids, but if I do I’ll do something like this. God knows what sort of dumbed down tech crap they’ll be fed in school.

pH3ra,
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He also keeps explaining to me why Fedora better than my “nerd OS”

Your brother is the wise guy of the bell curve

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/95da9b4e-60f3-4675-b4af-a446f0244885.png

Lotsen,
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Su Linux is most likely the answer to lering younger people to use computers fedora is especially good becouse it has a nice package manager (dnf) that is easy to understand

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