Linux 6.10 To Merge NTSYNC Driver For Emulating Windows NT Synchronization Primitives

Going through my usual scanning of all the “-next” Git subsystem branches of new code set to be introduced for the next Linux kernel merge window, a very notable addition was just queued up… Linux 6.10 is set to merge the NTSYNC driver for emulating the Microsoft Windows NT synchronization primitives within the kernel for allowing better performance with Valve’s Steam Play (Proton) and Wine of Windows games and other apps on Linux.

bloodfart,

I want it that way!

Procapra,
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I usually only run LTS kernels but I might make an exception here.

MichaelTen,
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So will FL Studio and Photoshop work on Linux then?

Limitless Peace

dyc3,

Fl studio already works fine for me through wine

dan,
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I remember running FL Studio using WINE 15 years ago and it worked fine.

MichaelTen,
@MichaelTen@lemmy.world avatar

Really… interesting…

What about loopcloud and all vsts?

dyc3,

Vsts are a bit of a gamble. Serum’s UI is bit buggy, and Massive works flawlessly. I don’t really have many vsts to test though. Idk what loopcloud is.

pastermil, (edited )

I was wondering if this can be used outside of Windows context.

Edit: I’m asking specifically for Linux context.

uis,

Please don’t

pastermil,

Why not? Would you rather that we have a Windows-exclusive subsystem in our kernel?

uis,
  1. Kernel devs then would want to make it stable API. I don’t want Windows API being stable part of kernel.
  2. It mostly implements racy stuff like pulsing event.
  3. There is already known subsystem that does not have stable API because it is used by only one project - DRI.
ProgrammingSocks,

Backwards compatibility is important

pastermil,

How does that have to do with the sync primitive?

ProgrammingSocks,

Since it’s a new feature, would it not cause incompatibility for any kernel versions before it was added?

LeFantome,

In addition to being useful for gamers, these are probably about to be the least likely to change APIs in the kernel.

umbrella,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

something something win32 is the most stable api

refurbishedrefurbisher,

Is this an alternative to FSYNC and ESYNC?

Atemu,
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

Yes.

uis,

What about futex2?

lemmyreader,

2024, the most memorable year of Linux gaming so far :-)

thingsiplay,

The Year of Memorable Linux

umbrella,
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why? i feel things are stabilizing and we are seeing incremental improvement instead of sweeping change now.

4am,

Oh no, all the projects are maturing and stabilizing? How boring, I don’t know how Linux gaming will survive

umbrella,
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oh i didnt mean to imply this is bad, just that it isnt memorable.

entropicdrift,
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Yeah, I’m team @umbrella on this one. It’s important but it’s not revolutionary

thingsiplay,

The start of the environment stabilizing is memorable. People ten thousands of generations in the future will remember the exact day when Linux Gaming became stable.

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