Not much later Blizzard banned me from Starcraft 2 that I paid with my own money for “account sharing” because I played at work a few times, which is just across the border in another country. They would not unban me until I changed my pseudonym to a real name and provided a copy of my passport to prove it. Fuck that. I always owned this copy. I had the original box and game code and everything. There were no other fraud indicators
I vowed to never give Blizzard money ever again and I kept that promise. I loved their games too death, it sucks
Germany’s leading Social Democratic Party (SPD) and the opposition Christian Democratic Party (CDU) have ordered high schools in Berlin’s borough of Neukolln to distribute brochures titled The Myth of Israel #1948....
I’m as appalled as anyone here, but as someone who speaks German, follows German media and worked in Germany for several years, please stop with the misinformed “Germany supporting genocide again, I guess they never change hurr durr” bullshit.
Germans know their history and every kid is taught a deep shame of what past Germans had done. They feel they owe an infinitely large debt to all Jews for the horrors of the holocaust. They all still feel responsible.
There are laws against antisemitism. Again, this is reasonable for a country with this history. They don’t want any of this to come back, or to make a joke or justification of what happened. Joke about Nazis in public and you’ll find yourself in trouble immediately.
About the current events in Gaza. German media and politicians interpret criticism of Israel as coming from antisemitism, even if the criticism itself may be justified. They may not hear your arguments at all, if they think you’re just saying these things because of some secret antisemitic agenda. It’s not that there isn’t any criticism, but there is very little and it’s always surrounded with a lot of “I’m not antisemitic” qualifiers. You can say something about the Israeli government, but not about the existence of Israel itself. You can call the killing in Gaza terrible tragedy, but never a genocide. Public protest doesn’t do that kind of nuance, so it’s regarded as highly suspect. The chant “from the river to the sea” is tainted, so you can’t say it at all, regardless of intent, interpretation of its meaning, they will flat out stop you. In this sense, dialog is certainly difficult. Once you cross the line, they will dismiss anything after that as the ramblings of just another antisemite. It’s not possible to have the difficult conversations at all.
I’m not saying I agree with any of this, but this is how German society at large sees it. For me personally, zionism and Israel are harmful remnants of colonialist thinking that have no place in this century. Germany needs to grow up when it comes to their stance on Israel. Israel can’t keep oppressing Arabs the way they have. Peace can only come from trying to restore justice and that means equal rights for non-Jews, return of land, right to return of refugees, economic aid, etcetera.
Germany should look at South Africa, Northern Ireland and to their own German Unification as examples from history to follow, and admit their holocaust trauma is distorting their view of the current situation.
This right here is what I’m talking about. We all know the history, thank you very much. Germany’s stance comes from extreme loyalty to Jews to make up for past crimes, not from a desire to genocide Gazans. I can’t say it any more plainly. These jokes and remarks about “Germans always be genociding” are insulting and incorrect.
And you don’t have to explain to me how Israel is absolutely in the wrong in this conflict, my friend. Israel is committing (and has been committing) genocide and I condemn that to the fullest. Not only should there be a ceasefire, there should be an end to the occupation
I know, it’s fucked up. I just want to comment on these braindead “Nazis gonna Nazi, amirite?” comedians littering every thread about Germany and Israel right now
AfD are not all Germans. You know this. There have been widespread protests. I’m assuming you’re Dutch and I hope you would be equally offended if people said you are complicit in Geert Wilders horrible utterings. There aren’t any widespread protests of PVV as for the AfD.
I don’t see the point in arguing here, to be honest. I am not defending anything bad here. I’m just sick of the kneejerk reaction equating present day Germans to actual 1940s Nazis for shits and giggles.
We need Germans who support Israel unconditionally to consider that Jews aren’t the victims this time, and that protecting Jewry from antisemitism does not mean they can’t do anything wrong, ever. It doesn’t help if people show a blatant disregard for the history and sensibilities of German society
Fair enough but the generalizations aren’t helping. We need them to see how Israel is on the wrong side, because simply calling them Nazis is just adding to the confusion. How can they be Nazis by supporting Jews, they’ll say. It doesn’t make sense.
I don’t know why you keep telling me this. You keep drawing me into some conversation about how awful it is what’s happening, and I agree. Israel is committing genocide. I never said otherwise. This isn’t about that. I know what is happening. I’m just trying to give the German perspective because it’s nothing like Germans are always supporting genocide or their culture is still full of Nazi shit. It isn’t. Not saying their stance on Israel isn’t wrong, the government still sides with Israel, but please try to be a little informed.
Thanks. I think it’s nice that you come out and say this. I want to say it doesn’t bother me but it does. I am playing on the same damn team as they are. They’re throwing all these talking points at me and I’m like “I know! I agree with all of that!”, so surreal
If your whole statement is we shouldn’t try to solve global warming because some people are rich
I don’t think that’s what they’re saying at all. Any solution to climate change is incomplete if it doesn’t also address inequality and overconsumption
Only your last one seems valid. Dutch coalitions aren’t very stable. The only stable factor of the last 12 years has recently left politics.
The question is indeed who is willing to form a coalition government. The most likely option is PVV (far right), VVD (neoliberal), and NSC (Christian democrats), of the latter can convince their voters they can accept the far right.
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Germany: Berlin schools asked to distribute leaflet describing the 1948 Nakba as a 'myth' (www.middleeasteye.net)
Germany’s leading Social Democratic Party (SPD) and the opposition Christian Democratic Party (CDU) have ordered high schools in Berlin’s borough of Neukolln to distribute brochures titled The Myth of Israel #1948....
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Far-right leader Geert Wilders wins Dutch election: Exit poll (www.politico.eu)
The anti-Islam, euroskeptic radical Geert Wilders is projected to be the shock winner of the Dutch election....