At today’s FESCo meeting, we agreed on the following proposal:
AGREED: KDE packages which reintroduce support for X11 are allowed in the main Fedora repositories, however they may not be included by default on any release-blocking deliverable (ISO, image, etc.). The KDE SIG should provide a notice before major changes, but is not responsible for ensuring that these packages adapt. Upgrades from F38 and F39 will be automatically migrated to Wayland. (+5, 0, -1)
For additional clarification: this means that all users performing upgrades MUST be migrated to the Wayland session. They then MAY opt-in to the X11 session by installing a package for that purpose. We are explicitly not providing detailed technical implementation requirements here, but we expect all parties to follow the spirit of this decision when making technical decisions.
You don’t have to worry. The folks at fedora have decided that the X11 session will remain in fedora 40 so you will be able to use X11 if you still face issues in wayland.
Edit : I was not clear enough. Want I mean to say is that the kwin-x11 and other required packages will be part of the fedora repo and people can just download them to enable the plasma-X11 session
I am not a power user and do casual gaming, document reading and processing, mail checking and video watching so the ublue main image provides the simplicity and stability I need.
But the result of those gestures(the overview) is not as useful as the overview in gnome and you have to swipe up to go to the overview and swipe up(not down for some unfanthomnable reason) again to leave the overview. A new gesture system has been added to plasma 6 which looks promising. The dev who made it said he has taken a lot of inspiration from gnome.
Also if OP is hell bent on testing DEs on hardware, I recommend installing fedora silverblue and rebasing betweens the spins to try out KDE, Gnome, budgie, sway(and a few more provided the universal blue developers). This way you can can safely try out the DEs without the mess of leftover packages and without losing your data.
Also @Doctor_Rex remember to install the nvidia specific images from ublue. They will come the nvidia drivers preinstalled.
The flatpak steam issue you pointed to has been long since resolved. I use universal blue’s rebase of silverblue and the flatpak install of steam has been working fine. Also since proton is packaged with steam, it does matter which distro you are one. It works when steam does.
Dont. Pop OS uses a older version of gnome which has a lot bugs under wayland. It is why the default is X11 and why the option to enable wayland is ‘hidden’ behind the command line.
Instead see if the issue is resolved by turning on ForceFullCompositionPipeline in the nvidia settings
Edit : The option might also be labelled ForceCompositionPipeline
Pop! OS hasn’t been updated in a couple years now, making it an absolute relic. As far as I know none of the Pop! OS apps have been either.
I think you are a bit misinformed on the situation. The core gnome-apps are struck on version 42.5 (which is ancient) but apps like Firefox, libre office, steam, etc. have been getting updates to keep them up to date. They might miss a sub version here or there but these are more or less upto date. The kernel and mesa graphic stack are also relatively up to date (not as modern as arch, fedora or opensuse tw but close enough) while the nvidia drivers are just as modern as on other distros(its their USP after all). Native packages of other 3rd party apps might old but you always have flatpak for those.
What I am trying to say is that pop os is still recommendable. I was using it until a few months ago when I changed devices leading to some distro hopping after which I have settled on universal blue’s rebase of fedora silverblue. It is completely possible that if I had not switched from nvidia to amd, I would still be on pop os.