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ProgrammingSocks, to fuck_cars in Milan, Italy, is littered with illegally parked cars. Fed-up people counted them: 64000 were found, 30 cars/km of road.

They should try the NYC method. Pay people that submit evidence of illegal parking, paid back to the government by that person getting ticketed.

Strider, (edited ) to fuck_cars in Milan, Italy, is littered with illegally parked cars. Fed-up people counted them: 64000 were found, 30 cars/km of road.

Pf, try Munich.

(a quick search reveals the ratio of inhabitants to cars to be similar and they’re parking everywhere and it’s just accepted bad behaviour)

lgsp,

I have been in Munich… Not remotely comparable.

Did you see the pictures in the article below? They are not an exception. Cars are parked like this in all Milan, on all the streets.

blog.urbanfile.org/…/milano-urbanistica-parcheggi…

Strider,

Yeah those pictures do compare. I see it every day.

Just now someone parked a transporter in the middle of a turning area.

I can assume though that you’ve been at a location which does not show this.

lgsp, (edited )

I don’t know… I have been there twice in the last 4 years, and I went in many places (touristy and not, I was there for work, Just as examples: Truderinger Str. or Marsstraße are not so central) and never saw anything like that. For sure I didn’t see cars parked on the bus stop or on the zebra crossings.

But anyway, with a similar car density (but people density is almost double in Milan) I am not be surprised that the situation is comparable in both places.

So, well, you should organize and count them too! I think that such a status is unacceptable independently of where it happens 🙂

Strider,

Thank you for the good response, I appreciate it.

Truderinger has a lot of space in comparison to other streets so there’s not much issue there, I think.

The marsstraße is kinda similar but more industrial.

I could see all those examples in various places here too. Also cars driving on pathways and so on. Maybe the density and amount of issues is different, I don’t know, possibly.

What drives me mad here is the absolute inaction. The city even responds to requests with the risk of damage to cars (!!) instead of considering humans.

lgsp,

I was genuinely surprised, because what you wrote was really different from what I experienced. But my experience i Munich is objectively limited. I somehow hoped that Germany, and Munich (along with other European cities) could be used as a model of how to do things right.

What drives me mad here is the absolute inaction

Exactly, and all this stuff about counting the cars is to try to move something. I have not much hope honestly, but excluding violence and vandalism, I think this is as much as someone can do

The city even responds to requests with the risk of damage to cars (!!) instead of considering humans.

This is completely crazy. In Milan they justify bad parking by saying things like “it has always been like this” or “yeah, but you can go around it” etc. FFS, do your job!!

MattsAlt, to fuck_cars in Milan, Italy, is littered with illegally parked cars. Fed-up people counted them: 64000 were found, 30 cars/km of road.
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Fed-up people sicko-hexbearCounted them sicko-wistful

lgsp,

Yes burning them all would have been much more satisfying.

But we needed to know how many matches we needed to buy 😈

DarkNightoftheSoul, to world in cibo

That’s a beautiful photo, but not relevant to world news.

fraichu, to linux in Good Nix OS series: five articles for new users.

Since I’m already a NixOS user, I thought to check out Series 4. One of the steps was “install flatpak”

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

lemmy_user_838586,

Ahh, itsfoss.com. they had some article on “being a supercharged Joplin user” or some nonsense and suggestion 3 or 4 was “Create a notebook”… Really being a power user when you’re utilizing the most basic functionality the app was created for…

callyral,
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“install flatpak”

why would someone do that in NixOS? nix has a lot of packages and using flatpaks imperatively would lead to less reproducibility

null,

My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.

I configure all the basics in .nix files, and then from there, they can install Flatpak from the software center, like they are used to doing.

Then I can just do a rebuild switch when I see them, make sure it’s all working, and then trust that they probably won’t break the system in-between.

Edit: to be clear, in my own config, if it’s not reproducible, I’m actively working to fix that.

Laser,

I mean why would you be fully against flatpak? I use NixOS without it and always packaged natively on Arch, but especially when upstream offers flatpak, it makes sense to enable it. Keeps the user-facing programs up to date and somewhat sandboxed while you can have a stable release beneath it. Especially if the system’s actual users aren’t that tech-savvy.

Stuff on unstable tends to break, especially electron-dependent derivations. Stable doesn’t always have the latest and greatest. Flatpak seems like a good compromise for desktop applications in some cases.

lambda,
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I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does nixos-rebuild switch pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.

Like, if I want to update Google Chrome. Doing switch wouldn’t change anything if the config hasn’t changed, right?

null,

I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.

So if you do a rebuild switch regularly, you will end up with gigs worth of old “copies” of things that aren’t being referenced in your current generation.

That’s what nix-collect-garbage handles – once you know your current generation is working well, you collect the garbage and recover that space, at the expense of not being able to roll back.

That’s why I think building a core system with NixOS and then having user software come from Flatpak is a nice combo for simple workstation that won’t update and bork itself, leaving my grandpa without a laptop until I can come take a look.

Edit: To clarify, nixos-rebuild-switch won’t update your Flatpaks at all – just the Flatpak service

null,

My disappointment is immutable

blotz, to linux in Good Nix OS series: five articles for new users.
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What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.

The different ways of installing packages. Either through editing the configuration.nix or running a command. The weird inconsistency of nix commands. nix-env -iA to install and nix-env --uninstall to uninstall. Then updating uses nix-channel --update but upgrade uses nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade. All this to use the package manager. Also haven’t even mentioned flakes or home manager.

It’s a cool OS, but the UX really needs work imo.

[Edit] I do wanna add something else too because I feel like my point isn’t getting across.

It’s okay to have a complicated ui. Especially if your target audience are tech-savvy. But even tech-savvy people have to start as new users. A tech-savvy new user isn’t going to know what the best practices are. Being able to anticipate the steps for installing a package is important for ux. If the commands for installing packages isn’t cohesive/intuitive, then the user has to spend more time looking for guides and learning how to use the software.

People also mentioned a new command in the works. This is great! However, these current commands are being recommended through blogs and nix. New users won’t know about this new command.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod, to linux in Imagine trusting oracle
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Oracle stands for "One Raging Asshole Called Larry Ellison"

harrybo93, to 196 in Rule of Engineering
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I fucking hate those that put that emoji in between every word. I have a stroke every time I try to read it.

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