TropicalDingdong,

I mean, try and keep in mind that lemmy isn’t a monolith.

As many brow-beaters as there are trying to force you into voting against your own interests for yet another corporate Democrat (oh but this one is less against your own interests than that other guy), there are also people trying to express nuance and having a real conversation.

Its clear to me leftists and progressives need their own party. It can and should caucus with Democrats, but it needs to have its own, actually democratic, primary system independent from whatever the-fuck-is-this-bull-shit thing the Democrats call a primary. No I don’t think any of the existing parties are sufficient (DSA or greens).

I put a post up a few minutes ago advocating for this. I think it could find its start in the upper-midwest, be focused on inclusivity and social democracy, and still caucus with Democrats. But there is no power in blue-no-matter-who. In many ways, its blue-no-matter-who that has delivered us a burgeoning neofacist movement, because we’re forced to vote for shitty corporate Democrats uncritically. We need to abandon the white-liberalism of the NYT, NPR, Atlantic, and WaPo crowd. Its not working, It never worked. Enlightened mediocrity has only made things worse for all of us. This is probably my last election as a registered Democrat. I switched from independent to Democrat to support Bernie, and have put in several thousand hours since 2015 organizing and fundraising for various Democratic candidates or leftist projects. The Democrats turned out to be a bad investment of that time, and I sometimes wonder if Bernie thinks the same thing.

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