hessenjunge,

In their ignorance the Trump campaign delivered a nice own goal: if they love the 2nd Reich of 1871 so much they should adopt a couple of their policies.

Universal healthcare for example - introduced in 1883 by a conservative chancellor by the name of Bismarck.

aubeynarf,

“Reich” doesn’t mean “Nazi”.

The “Second Reich” referred to the German Empire. After WWI, “The Weimar Republic,[b] officially known as the German Reich,[c] was a historical period of Germany from 9 November 1918 to 23 March 1933, during which it was a constitutional federal republic for the first time in history; hence it is also referred to, and unofficially proclaimed itself, as the German Republic.”

KidnappedByKitties,

Oh, so Trump is now running on the glory of the German republic? Seems like an odd shift in campaign strategy. /s

“Reich” doesn’t mean “Nazi”.

That might be true in german. But Trump’s addressing the US, and particularly a demographic known to a) not speak german, b) associate "Reich"with the propaganda of the Aryan Third Reich of Nazi propaganda, which was the ideal to be ushered in by (and excuse) the Holocaust, Secret Police, Ghettos, systematic execution of homosexuals/disabled/colored, the subjugation of the lesser races, and other pastimes of the notoriously sympatico nazis.

hessenjunge,

In the video they seem to refer to the 2nd Reich of 1871.

Which is cool because of they it so much they should adopt a couple of their policies. Like universal healthcare (1883).

I know they mean 1933 when they say 1871 but let’s still make this about healthcare and social security that were introduced in the ‘unified Reich’.

kromem,

And the swastika is a Hindu religious symbol.

And yet if Trump’s Truth Social account reposted a swastika, I probably wouldn’t think he was promoting Sanskrit.

Context matters.

MagicShel,

And confederate flag. Yes, it is a historical embarrassment to the families of a small group of traitors, but it is now primarily a symbol of ignorance and racism.

5in1k,

Ok, you think Trump is referring to the interwar German government? That’s not giving him slack that’s just letting go of the lead.

hessenjunge, (edited )

Sorry, you’re completely utterly wrong here. First, the Reichs:

  1. Reich: Holy Roman Empire (of the German Nation).
  2. Reich: (Unified) German Empire (1871-1918). → that’s the one they were referring to by wording, but not by implication.
  3. Reich: Nazi Germany (1933-1945). → context and implication should make it clear they mean this one.

The Weimar Republic took place between the second and the third Reich. It would’ve been a golden age of great prosperity if it weren’t for the Versailles contract and the Great Depression. It’s still had great economic achievements, which often get falsely attributed to Nazi Germany. You can be 100% sure that the Trump campaign doesn’t refer to this one. And please don’t conflate it with the 2nd Reich.

Even though the wording seems to indicate the 1871 German Reich the wording unified Reich and the use of the term Reich in English make this a Nazi Bullhorn.

Edit to add: In their ignorance the Trump campaign delivered a nice own goal: if they love the 2nd Reich of 1871 so much they should adopt a couple of their policies. Universal healthcare for example - introduced in 1883 by a conservative chancellor by the name of Bismarck.

OldWoodFrame,

“Reich” as a word in German doesn’t. Reich as a loan word in English exclusively refers to the historical Nazi 3rd Reich or neonazi ambitions.

Passerby6497,

“Reich” doesn’t mean “Nazi”.

Dog whistles don’t have to mean the thing they clearly mean in context.

And in this context, it’s clearly a Nazi dog whistle.

Nobody,

The debates are going to be hilarious. Biden is diminished, but Trump has completely lost the script. Debates last for an hour or two.

Biden might fuck up a name or other detail, but Trump is going to vomit insanity all over everyone who didn’t go into the debate already agreeing with his madness.

Alto,
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And the scary thing is, a significant portion of the country will actively cheer him on for it. The dude could go into a full on fugue state, take a shit on the stage and start jacking off, and the MAGA dipshits would still be talking about how that's somehow 4d chess

alternative_factor,
@alternative_factor@kbin.social avatar

Yup it's like Trump has some magical realism aura where he's allowed carte blanche for literally everything.

TexMexBazooka,

Propaganda is a bitch

slurpinderpin,

Shane Gillis’ bit on Trump’s debates was spot on. At the very least they’ll be hilarious

“Ted, your wife’s ugly as a dog”

ChihuahuaOfDoom,

I wish I could say I was surprised. I feel like the brakes are off the fascism train these days. Hopefully I’m wrong.

4grams,
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I’ve come to the same conclusion. I’ve been wrapped up in political bullshit for years but trying to pull myself out because in all that time, no matter who wins, shit gets worse. The system does what the system will do and right now it seems determined to self immolate.

Cybermonk_Taiji,

This is what is meant by “late stage capitalism”

The problem in the system is profit motive. The US has never been a nation of people, it’s a business platform with a bottom line.

4grams,
@4grams@awful.systems avatar

Ha, my previous comment was about late stage capitalism. Great minds think alike, huh?

Cybermonk_Taiji,

The other half of that saying is even more applicable these days.

Cybermonk_Taiji,

You aren’t.

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