Aileen Cannon to entertain Trump’s claim the special counsel is unlawful in Friday hearing | CNN Politics

“Judge Aileen Cannon will begin three days of hearings that could determine the future of the charges against the former president.

Trump is arguing that Jack Smith – who has brought charges against Trump in Florida and Washington, DC – was unlawfully appointed as special counsel.”

Three days to go “Yeah, no he wasn’t.”

slurpinderpin,

When can we go back to putting people on trial for treason? This cunt needs to be on that list

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Treason has VERY specific legal definitions, which is why we didn’t see it dropped on any of the January 6th combatants:

US Constitution, Article III, Section 3:

constitution.congress.gov/…/article-3/

“Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.”

In this case, Treason only applies if the people are working in concert with an entity which has declared war against the United States, or is in open hostility to the United States.

Trump, for all his insanity, hasn’t declared war on the US, so his adherents TECHNICALLY don’t fall under the definition of capital “T” “Treason”.

This is why they get slapped with “sediton” instead. :)

uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/….

Ҥ2383. Rebellion or insurrection

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

§2384. Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, §1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)”

Asafum,

“Aileen Cannon agrees to continue to caress Trumps balls as she gears up to be the next appointed SCROTUS judge.”

American Meritocracy™ friendos!

Bluefalcon,

I have my money on that too. She is pushing for a seat.

CharlesDarwin,
@CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world avatar

Aileen is just so very compromised.

phdepressed,

Nah she’s just corrupt.

homesweethomeMrL,

And a goddamned idiot

Wiz,

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Rapidcreek,

if she declares it unlawful, it’d be appealed, wouldn’t it. She really has no legal grounds. It will also force an appeal to throw her off the case. But, she will succeed in further delay before another judge is assigned.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Then that gets challenged up to the Supreme Court, who after next week, won’t be hearing cases again until October, and won’t be deciding new cases until June, 2025…

Rapidcreek, (edited )

The Supreme Court has already set the precedent, of course. But, if they took the case, you’d know the fix was well and truly in. It would lead to the largest balance of powers issue the country has ever seen.

reagansrottencorpse,

Of course she is

gravitas_deficiency,

Tbh I kinda want her to do it, if for no other reason than to remove all possible doubt as to her bias. Also because it puts the ball in the appellate court, which would probably just undo much or all of whatever Cannon did.

Boddhisatva,

If she did it, the judgement would immediately be appealed and she would get her pee pee slapped hard and the judgement would be overturned. Maybe, if the gods are good, she’ll be removed from the case. It seems unlikely that she will take that chance though since she can cause more delay by staying where she it, but who knows, she doesn’t seem to be the sharpest crayon in the box so maybe she will do it.

The whole point of this is just to delay until the election when Trump, should he be reelected, can undermine the whole thing. It’s clear that the attorney general can appoint a special council when an investigation by DoJ directly could present a conflict of interest. Making a bad ruling here might work for her though. Having the ruling appealed would certainly delay things at least a few weeks or a month and that could take us to the end of July before it was overturned and/or sent back down to her court.

If the appeals court does finally decide to give her the boot, it would take quite a while to get a new judge appointed and a new trial underway. There would be no chance of a decision before the election and that is the whole goal. Plus, then she’d probably be free to go on the right wing talk circuit and make piles of money while still supporting Trump.

Nightwingdragon, (edited )

It seems unlikely that she will take that chance though since she can cause more delay by staying where she it, but who knows, she doesn’t seem to be the sharpest crayon in the box so maybe she will do it.

She has two goals:

  1. To entertain all of the ridiculous motions to get the charges dismissed that Trump makes and deny them. This is for the purpose of cover so she can point to those rulings as a defense against accusations of bias, while also delaying the trial until after the election in the hopes that Trump wins and orders the DOJ to drop the charges.
  2. If and when the case does go to trial, then she’ll entertain and grant a motion to dismiss once a jury is seated so double jeopardy attaches and Trump walks anyway. She’s already openly all but said as much, as she is intentionally waiting until the start of the trial to rule on some defense motions.

Plus, then she’d probably be free to go on the right wing talk circuit and make piles of money while still supporting Trump.

The appellate courts removing her from the case won’t mean she stops being a judge. Only impeachment and removal can do that, and there’s zero chance that 2/3 of the senate is going to vote to remove her from the bench. Her seat is secure. She’s basically trying to angle for a seat on the Supreme Court, knowing that two judges are likely going to be replaced during the next term and this is her best shot at getting one of them, while also knowing full well that her job is secure even if all of this blows up in her face. In her mind, she’s basically gambling with house money.

frezik,

At this point, she’s already delayed things enough to push any ruling past the election. There’s less and less downside to having her removed as the date gets closer.

All this for what should be the easiest case against Trump. Did he store boxes full of classified documents on his personal property? Yes. Did he declassify them before leaving office? No. Did he have the right to store them? No. We should be done here.

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