Whattrees

Whattrees, 8 days ago

On your first point, does the evidence show that taking puberty blockers makes you more socially isolated? I have seen no evidence of that at all, and instead there’s a mountain of evidence that social transition and puberty blockers lower suicidality in trans kids and increase mental health outcomes.

We’ve been using puberty blockers, not just for trans kids but for precocious puberty for decades and have more than enough long term evidence of their effectiveness and safety. No drug or procedure is without risk, but why is that only a problem for this issue? Are you also against kids getting chemo? I mean, they certainly don’t fully understand the risks of chemo do they?

The question of consent and knowledge of risk is a red herring. Kids can’t consent to any medical procedures or sex because we’ve defined consent that way. But consent from the patient is not always needed for medical procedures, especially when the patient is unable to give consent. Should coma patients still get care that has risks? They can’t consent right?

Consent is given by the parents and the medical professionals who have the authority to make those decisions. You can ask the kid, and they usually do, but their consent does not matter. That’s how all medical procedures work with kids.

In reality, your statements lay bare a bias, which is why you’re getting downvoted. You only seem to care about risks and consent for this specific highly-politicized topic and not medical procedures broadly. Because this is not about a broad critique of consent, it’s about trying to excuse your uncomfortablity with this one subject and trying to justify it in any way you can.

You don’t have to understand it, and you don’t have to agree with it, but you should at least recognize why the majority of major medical institutions make the recommendations they do. And, shockingly, it’s not because they somehow forgot it was involving kids, it’s because they know a little more about the topic and nuances than you do.

Whattrees, 8 days ago

How about you use a fucking dictionary or the google button on your phone and look it up yourself.

Gender == sex == sexuality

Gender isn’t about who you sleep with, or what’s in your genes/jeans.

If you want to come here to convince people then do the leg-work yourself.

Whattrees, 8 days ago

I didn’t ask you for anything and you didn’t explain anything to me. This was my first comment in this thread. Maybe take some time and see who you are responding to first?

You can shove your civility politics up your ass. Being civil doesn’t make it not bigoted and doesn’t make you right.

Since you are too lazy to look them up yourself and do the legwork, I’ll do it for you:

Sex refers to a set of biological attributes in humans and animals. It is primarily associated with physical and physiological features including chromosomes, gene expression, hormone levels and function, and reproductive/sexual anatomy. Sex is usually categorized as female or male but there is variation in the biological attributes that comprise sex and how those attributes are expressed.

Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, expressions and identities of girls, women, boys, men, and gender diverse people. It influences how people perceive themselves and each other, how they act and interact, and the distribution of power and resources in society. Gender identity is not confined to a binary (girl/woman, boy/man) nor is it static; it exists along a continuum and can change over time. There is considerable diversity in how individuals and groups understand, experience and express gender through the roles they take on, the expectations placed on them, relations with others and the complex ways that gender is institutionalized in society.

Sexuality is a person’s identity in relation to the gender or genders to which they are sexually attracted; the fact of being heterosexual, homosexual, etc.

If your definition is as broad as you imply, everything is your sexuality and therefore kids doing anything and having any options at all are sexual in nature. Your definition is useless.

Whattrees, 8 days ago

I could manage it, but bigotry doesn’t deserve respect or civility.

Do they have to be independent to be different things?

Why should your dumbass opinion backed by literally nothing but “my experiences” deserve to be discussed or considered at all? Do you have any skin in this game at all or is being a bigot just a fun pastime for you? Do you have any training in these fields? Any new data to discuss? You’ve got an uneducated opinion backed by nothing and discounted by the people who actually study this that you think is hot shit because you like the smell of your own farts.

Whattrees, 8 days ago (edited 8 days ago)

Don’t pull this shit again. You are against the use of puberty blockers because there would be no use for them after the person is done with puberty. You want them to wait until they are 18, when they are done with the vast majority of physical effects to start treatment. And the only reason you’ve given is “I just don’t think they need it yet, they need love not drugs.” Present evidence of harm or shut the fuck up. You’re fear-mongering over something you don’t understand and it has actual harm to other people.

If you think the use is so different that the dangers outweigh the risks then prove it. The institutions that study this don’t. The organizations that make policy based on those studies don’t. You don’t get to just “but it feels different” you have to provide evidence that it is different and harmful in a way the other studies wouldn’t have caught.

It’s “not at all” for puberty blockers because, again, you want kids to go through puberty before undergoing any gender therapy. If you had studied this at all you’d know why the medical organizations recommend starting before puberty. Puberty is the harm they are looking to alleviate and you can’t do that by waiting until after puberty to start treatment.

I’ll read your intentions as much as I want because you’re a fucking book. It’s easy to see exactly why you are here and making the arguments you are. Do you really think this is the first time most of us have seen a “just asking questions” and “this is pedophilia” argument? You don’t have to tell me you’re a duck, you already walked and talked like one.

I don’t give a fuck about your family or friends. Do you have a medical degree? Did you do any studies on this matter? Do you have any relevant training or expertise?

They are changing, but not in the way you think. I’ve read this book before, I know how it ends. That said, I’m enjoying wasting your time and calling you the bigot you are. I have a feeling you don’t hear that enough in your life so I’m happy to provide that for you.

You are advocating for your own feels. If you actually gave a flying fuck about the kids this affects you’d follow the recommendations of the people who actually studied this shit. Or at least present even one piece of evidence.

Whattrees, 8 days ago

Ahhh shucks, I love when bigots think I’m not being civil enough 😊.

Did I come here and post obvious bait to try and convince people? Does my opinion go against the people who study this for a living? Does my position have a complete lack of evidence to support it? It’s like you walked in here and posted some bait about the earth being flat, refused to provide a shred of evidence, and are now complaining about our positions not being on equal footing. They aren’t. If you want to convince people, and you want to contravene scientific evidence you are the one who has to prove it.

My position bears more weight because there is actual evidence and experts on my side.

Again, your bigotry deserves no respect and your “how very uncouth of you” does nothing. Save the whinging for the safe space you crawled out from. I’m sure all the other bigots will be there to hold your hand and congratulate you.

Whattrees, 8 days ago

Ahhhhh did someone get their fee fees hurt? Do you have a boo boo? Show me on the doll where the mean commenter hurt you. I can send you a bandaid if you need.

You could have just provided any evidence at all but I know that must have been hard for you. Your bald-ass assertion of bigotry deserves no respect and neither do you. But I guess you can’t handle the same vitriol you spew when it’s turned back on you, huh?

Fuck you and your faux civility.

Whattrees, 7 days ago

What’s embarrassing is your absolute failure to provide even a shred of evidence for your fear mongering. What’s even more embarrassing is your weak ass attempt at civility politics. You can’t start out with a post conflating trans youth with pedophilia, acknowledging that it’s an insane position, and then act shocked when people aren’t nice to you.

Once again, fuck you, fuck your feelings, fuck your civility politics. Craw back into the cesspool you spawned from. You don’t deserve to be treated kindly. You deserve to suffer as much as the people your insane opinion would suffer if you got your way. Luckily, as this article shows, your opinions are not shared by most of the public. Have fun wallowing in obscurity you pathetic sack of shit.

Whattrees, 7 days ago

Ohh of course. You only wanted a civil discussion. That’s why you immediately compared trans health care to pedophilia and called your own statement an insane position. That’s also why you have continuously failed to provide evidence for a single claim you’ve made. Ya, you totally just wanted a calm discussion of intellectuals.

I am proud that you think so little of me. It warms my heart. The hate of bigots is the coal my generators need. You keep saying you’re going to stop responding but you don’t. You know you like it, come on…Keep it going…Fuel my generators baby.

Whattrees, 1 month ago

No, of course you don’t hate them, you just think people are justified in hating them as long as they are in public. Don’t you know people will just get over their biases if other people never confront them and they never see the people they hate? We just have to make every disliked minority disappear from public view and the bigots will magically get over it.

Don’t you remember when black people gained equal rights in the law by disappearing from public for a while? It was only when they stopped being so in your face about their mistreatment that the bigots accepted them and gave them rights, right?

Why don’t people like you have the fucking balls to just say what you think? Why is it always this, “Oh I’d be fine with them if they’d stop asking for me to be fine with them” kind of wishy-washy bullshit. Just fucking grow a pair and say you don’t like seeing gay people in public because you think they are gross and weird.

Whattrees, 1 month ago

Wait, so you admit that you, in your spare time for fun presumably, look for things the worst part of any groups do so that you can give other people excuses to hate them? Do you have any idea how retarded that is on every level? You just like to hate groups of people and go looking for excuses for it, it’s like someone made a recipe on how to trick yourself with confirmation bias into being an even bigger bigot.

Also, just for fun, have you ever done that same thing with groups you belong to? Like, say for example, men, white people, heterosexuals, cisgenerders, neo-nazis, zoophiles?

Whattrees, 1 month ago

Oh my God, he’s getting better, he finally invented a conspiracy theory that doesn’t implicate the Jews! Progress!

Whattrees, 2 months ago

Biden does a bad thing: See? He’s just like Trump!

Biden does a moderate thing: See? He’s not as left as he should be!

Biden does a good thing early in his term: See? He’s not doing enough yet!

Biden does a good thing halfway into his term: See? It’s just to help the Dems in the midterm!

Biden does a good thing late in his term: See? He’s just trying to appease the people who might vote for him!

Whattrees, 2 months ago

Almost like the Dept of Ed has been working on these rules for years and the process takes some time and has to be open to public comments and things. The wheels of the government are designed to move slowly. We can discuss if that’s good or not, but this isn’t something Biden decided last week, it’s been in the works for a long time.

And it’s almost politics, especially on the left, is more complicated than one party having the slimmest of possible margins. Did you forget about Sinema and Manchen? Have you already forgotten the fights the Dems in Congress had within the party to get enough support to pass things? If you want more progressive polices to pass than you need to elect even more Dems into Congress so that the few fuckwits in the “center-right” can be relegated to the corner and ignored. That doesn’t work when nothing can pass if even one senator decides to vote no.

Jesus fucking Christ I swear we need to mandate more than one part of one class for how the government works. So many of you out here acting like the moment a Dem becomes president they can just will whatever laws they want into existence.

Whattrees, 2 months ago (edited 2 months ago)

See? He’s just like Trump! And he’s not doing enough! And the things he has done are only to help secure votes!

Edit to add: Also, my dude, did you forget which post this is on? He’s literally protecting trans people with this move but it’s still not enough. Fact is you wouldn’t support him even if he led the revolution himself. He’s not perfect, but he’s done more to clean up Trump’s mess and help marginalized people than any president in history.

Whattrees, 2 months ago

That’s a good question! But it’s one I ask myself every time someone complains about the Dems not doing enough when they had full control of Congress.

“Why didn’t they pass a student loan bill or abortion protection or $15 minimum wage when they had the chance?” Manchen and Sinema.

Whattrees, 2 months ago

Do you know who the Dept of Ed works for? Do you know who put the guy in charge of that Department?

Biden didn’t directly make this change because he doesn’t have the authority to do that, but he did direct his appointee to do it.

What part of the way the government works did I get wrong? Does the President get to will laws into existence? Did Manchen and Sinema not matter?

Whattrees, 2 months ago

Sorry, you expect Biden to undo it if he is elected? Or do you just mean that it will be removed if Trump wins. Of course if Trump wins he’ll undo whatever of Biden’s work he can. I don’t have any reason at all to think Biden would remove it after the election if he won. Why wouldn’t he maintain it?

Whattrees, 2 months ago

Jesus Christ dude, do I need to link you the list of Trump lies told in his four years? What had Biden lied about that’s even close to that!? Trump averaged multiple lies in a day and you’re here saying they are basically the same. If you want Trump to win just vote for him instead of pretending it’s some principled stand against Biden.

Whattrees, 2 months ago

Student loans: But it was the fact that Democrats couldn’t even have gotten all their members on board for student loan forgiveness that likely kept them from putting it in the bill, experts say. Given the party’s razor-thin majority, the opposition of one Democrat can derail the entire legislation.

$15 Minimum wage: Sinema famously voted it down.

How exactly does either of these reflect badly on Biden? The whole point is that people like you are forgetting that Biden couldn’t do it alone and that we need more Dems in Congress so that people like her can be put in a corner and ignored. A vote for Biden isn’t an endorsement of all Dems. If you live in a district where a moderate Dem is representing you than do your part in the primaries. If you don’t, do your part in voting in better/more Dems so we can religate the moderates.

Whattrees, 2 months ago

Because that totally worked in 2026 right? They obviously just need to lose to Trump and they will suddenly realize the error of their ways and become a full leftist party overnight. All we need to do to save America from the evil DNC is let Trump win again! It makes perfect sense!

Whattrees, 2 months ago

Balatro is super good if you haven’t played it yet. It’s the passion project of one guy that feels more cohesive than some AAA games I’ve played

Whattrees, 3 months ago

It reminds me a bit of the US intelligence saying that Russia was going to invade Ukraine and attempt to make it all the way to Kiev while Russia was adamant that it would never happen.

The other thing to note is that all countries have an “obligation to report” which requires them to report evidence of terror attacks to any county that would be the victim, even if they are a hostile nation. As much as “US bad” is true, it’s frankly refreshing to see us do the right thing so publicly, even if it was only as a way to make Putin look bad.

Whattrees, 3 months ago

In 2019, Ginsburg helped establish the award with the Opperman Foundation to celebrate “women who exemplify human qualities of empathy and humility.” The organization later opened the award to men, renaming the trophy as the Leadership Award while claiming to aim for gender equality.

Ah yes, because when I think of empathy and humility I definitely think of Musk and Murdock.

Whattrees, 3 months ago

WTF are you even talking about? You keep using super vague phrases to try and argue that (and I’m just guessing here since I legitimately can’t tell what you are trying to say) LGBTQ advocates are ignoring history?

What history are you pointing to? Why would that history matter in fields like medical science? Would the history of gender help us understand that some people identify as trans? Would it help us understand the best practices in helping them?

Was this all just a way to complain about “men” going into women’s spaces?