TranscendentalEmpire,

Again, you’re talking about cost, not which you’d prefer from a service perspective.

If you went to a restaurant and they ran separate charges every time you ordered something… You wouldn’t consider that bad service?

Also, I went to the same physician when on Tricare, so it’s the same exact service, minus all the billing hassle.

I think there are lots of opportunities to make costs lower, such as reducing patent lengths (reduces medication costs) and simplify insurance (reduces admin costs).

And I think you could do the same things and still lower the cost even more by banning privatized insurance?

Also, what is the profit motive for insurance companies to simplify their process? Their systems were purpose built to be as complicated and time consuming as possible, if they make the process easier, their subscribers would utilize it more, making insurance pay more often.

patents - reduce to 5-7 years; should cut costs of pharmaceuticals

  • insurance - simplify and standardize coverage; coverage details and bill processing should be automated

And again, why would corporations do this? And how would we enforce this?

The Medicare billing is automated, and pretty simple. It’s what every insurance company has the option of doing, but only Medicare and Medicaid have automated the process. This is because private insurance companies have no profit motive to pay for their prescribers healthcare.

publicly post costs of common procedures, and give expected, average, and maximum costs before any procedure

Most hospitals have this information available, especially if you call their financial services office. In fact if you are a Medicare patient this information is publicly available on the CMS website, and they list exactly how they came to that figure.

The whole hidden ledger thing is primarily only a problem at privatized hospitals that were bought or built by private hospital networks operating for profit.

I think we should also cap access to Medicare for retirees at a certain income level as well, and remove FICA tax caps.

The inherent problem with this is that the elderly are fundamentally uninsurable. You can’t make a profit from an elderly subscriber, the cost of their end of life care will always cost more than any subscription fee they may pay in.

This is why the vast majority of private insurance do not offer primary insurance to people older than 65. The whole point of private insurance is to extract money from healthy patients and then dump them onto Medicaid if they become disabled, or onto Medicare when they begin to age and decline in health.

We should absolutely be discouraging employer sponsored insurance and encouraging longer term insurance plans (e.g. like life insurance, you lock in at a lower rate if you sign up while healthy).

Who would offer those plans, and why? The only reason most people can afford private insurance is because their employer collectively bartered for the price. A lot of people have no idea how much of their employee compensation package is taken up by their insurance, but the burden of cost is redistributed by the entire employer pool.

Dropping someone from insurance shouldn’t be a thing at all, and the payout for doing so should be much higher than any costs the insurance company would incur by keeping them.

This would bankrupt private insurance companies… I don’t think you fully understand how hard it is to make money on health insurance. The only way to do so is by withholding healthcare to your subscribers, or to offer plans with obscene co-pays or deductible.

The cost on average for full coverage is around 8.5k dollars a year for an individual, or 24k for a family. Meaning that the cost of a single operation, illness, or inpatient procedure will wipe away the potential profits from an individual subscriber for years. The only way to recover from having one I’ll subscriber is to balance them with a dozen healthy subscribers.

Without managing this equation of large healthy profitable pool vs small costly pool, the entire charade of private insurance would collapse upon itself.

One of the largest drivers in the increase in healthcare cost is these types of people. People whom don’t have any insurance, but still have healthcare needs. For these people the emergency room is typically their only option. This is one of the reasons emergency medicine is such a drain on hospital resources. For every person they treat without insurance, they have to raise the cost on people with insurance, simply so they don’t go out of business.

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