Meanwhile the guy who can actually do something about it right now has done nothing but continue to aid Israels genocide in Gaza by providing them weapons and instructing his UN ambassador to continue providing cover. Fuck Trump, but goddam can’t you people ask the bare minimum (oppose genocide) from your party leader?
Irrelevant. We have the biggest military in the world, and with great power comes great responsibility. We should have bombed their capitol and assassinated Netanyahu months ago. Biden is complicit in genocide.
It is one of the larger servers for one. Some people after blocking lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.net also block lemmy.ml too. Not me bc I like the memes:-). Anyway it is how they want to be, I guess.
Sanction Bibi and weaken what little political support he has left. Many many Israelis hate his ass. Let them remove him from power with the ballot box.
Want to remove authoritarians? Start by not supporting them, not by trying to out authoritarian them.
True, my answer was simply the most obvious one, there are certainly better ways to depose Netenyahu and israels genocide. But if Biden wants an easy answer, its to just fucking kill him and force israel to end their genocide.
They’re trying their hardest to spin any statement about preventing a second Trump presidency into you actively supporting genocide. No mental gymnastics are too difficult for them.
I’m not usually inclined to conspiracy theories, but to me this smells like a concerted Russian astroturfing campaign to bring Putin’s sock puppet back into office while sowing more division. What’s also interesting is that all they want to talk about is genocide, but only the one happening at the hands of Israels government right now. Putin’s genocide in Ukraine is conveniently ignored or denied.
Violent regime change? How about humanitarian intervention in a fucking genocide? The US has never been shy about violent regime change, and this is true of whichever party is in power. Here we have a clear justification for forceful intervention and you pretend to some equivocation? Do you have any moral standards at all, or simply political calculation?
There is whole lot of options between where we are now, which is giving arms to Bibi, and assassinating the leader of a country with democratic elections and nukes.
He’s hanging on to power by a fart and a prayer. His political career likely wouldn’t survive sanctions.
I feel like trump never really supported Israel. It’s never been one of his big campaign issues and his isolationist tendencies push him away from it. He likes netanyahu like he likes the Saudis because they kiss his ass, but like all the sycophants who surround him he’ll abandon them as soon as they start being a liability, and this war, even with his base, is starting to become a liability.
He’s the opposite of Biden in that way, Trump had no particular attachment to Israel and would probably be fine if it stopped but his party is pulling him into a hard-line approach. Meanwhile Biden has been a passionate Zionist his whole political career and is being pulled by the left in the party to a call for ceasefire.
He’s not genuinely religious. I doubt he’s a believer but he’s definitely not a true-believer. He just knows the rubes mostly are. Convenient exploitation plus dog-whistle.
Why is the New York Times reporting on the feelings of a random far-right Israeli? Who pitched this story to them? This story says more about the Times’ view of what is newsworthy than anything substantive about Trump’s relationship with Israel or the right.
It just comes across as more “both sides” white-washing. If you look hard enough you can find a source for whatever message you want to put out and then just couch it in “some say”.
I’ll translate from mob-boss-speak: when Trump says “finish up,” he means “complete the extermination of the Palestinian people quickly, before the anti-genocide opposition can finish mobilizing to stop it.”
That’s incredibly speculative. What reason do you have to think Trump cares HOW the conflict ends? When has trump ever cared about anyone besides himself?
Well, for starters, Trump also said that Israel needs to “finish what they started” and what they started was a genocide, so…
He also said Israel needs to “get it over with” and that’s something you say when you want someone to complete an unpleasant task rather than abandon it.
First, this is a self-created scenario. Honestly, if it came to Bernie and Trump… would you be more scared of Trump winning or Bernie? If your answer is Trump, then ask the Democrats why they are more scared of having someone like Bernie win than they are of risking Trump winning again. That should tell you all you need to know about what and who you’re actually voting for. It is the same show different season, but you forgot to watch seasons 1-7 to see they all are the same story with new actors every now and then.
It’s not, there’s 2 candidates right now, one is trump.
There is no known democratic politician that if they replaced Biden, I’d vote for trump. It’s not gonna happen. Bernie, fuck it Hillary, any of em. Trump must not be president.
Trump is unlike any other president or presidential candidate in the modern age. Avoiding project 2025, insurrection 2.0 or any other maga shenanigans is the top order.
Yeah, no shit. There were the same two candidates last time too and Biden didn’t win more votes cause he was well liked. So same story and same characters, different season. They are taking a bigger risk this time around though, but hey… if Trump does win, make sure you blame everyone but the Democrats.
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