mozz,
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even though I still take issue with the default seemingly being 'shill, unless enough effort is shown'.

Hey so check it out: That's not at all what I said. My criteria I listed for suspecting you of something dishonest were:

  1. Reusing shill talking points
  2. Using tactics like rampant strawmanning, just blandly pretending that someone said something different than they said and arguing against that instead of what they said.

Then I also mentioned that:

  1. Since you seem like you're open to talking at this huge length which isn't usual for shills, that sort of makes me trust you again.

I have more to say, but I just wanna pause on this point for a second. Check this out:

Therein lies the pitfall of the shill-unless-proven-otherwise attitude - it makes it easy to characterize most people as shills

I literally never said that, or anything close to it. I listed two criteria that would fit a shill, and one that would exonerate someone from being a shill, and it sounds like you just totally edited away the first two and started telling me that I think everyone's a shill unless exonerated by the third.

Surely you can see how conducting the conversation like that would make someone conclude you're not speaking in good faith?

Like I say, I have more to say, but this is such a critical point that I want to pause and focus on it for a second.

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