Any good email service except tutamail and proton ?

I am now using disroot . I don’t care about anonymity or anything as I just wanna use it to connect to my bank, ID and buy/book shit etc. Which all have my phone number, address, name etc anyway so no point in that . I just want the security privacy to be good enough that no one can easily hack it, steal my OTP, inbox etc and I want it to be big and trusted enough that they won’t sell it/sell it and go Scott free also gmail asks email or phone number for verification and then brick acc if I don’t comply so I’d like to skip those kind of ones . Is disroot enough for my uses ? Also I’d like a free one as I barely use emails like 3 or 4 times a year .

Zerush, (edited )
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

I use also Murena Mail, apart of Proton murena.ioMurena is a whole ecosystem, similar to GDrive, they even had launched the complete degoogled Murena smartphones

Tech Radar review

Murena’s key goal is to stop companies collecting unnecessary data from your phone and online footprints, which it says accounts for up to 12Mb every single day. Transparency is clearly important when browsing Murena’s website, which states that all of its servers are based in Europe including its Finnish email and cloud servers, resulting in full GDPR compliance.

Nextcloud, which sets the foundation for many of Murena’s services, is end-to-end encrypted, while a statement on Murena’s website reads:

“We don’t scan your data, we don’t log your app usage, we don’t sell your data, we don’t use ads in our online services.”

Negative points for some

  • Only 1 GB Cloud for free (maybe enough if you only use the mail)
  • Somewhat more expensive than others with the Premium plan
Psych,

That looks really good . Would you recommend switching from disroot to this ?

Zerush,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

Well, at least for me Murena is a nice and private Mail and OpenSource. If 1 GB is enough for you, it’s a good choice. Apart there is no need to switch, it’s always advisable to have several mail accounts at hand.

chemicalwonka,
@chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

the source code of their services is open?

Zerush,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

Yes, the only thing which until now isn’t opensource is Magic Earth, which they use in their /e/OS (degoogled Android) instead of Google maps.

999999999,
@999999999@lemmy.ml avatar

Infomaniak Mail. They are closing their entries to some countries now(temporally). I got luky to get before this happened. They have a nice set of tools like Swisstransfer, kPaste and others.

rinze,
@rinze@infosec.pub avatar

I’ve been using Fastmail for a few years and I’m quite happy with the service. Being a semi-large organization I expect their security to be OK, but if anyone has comments on that aspect I welcome them.

As for privacy, I always consider e-mail to be a postcard. If I want to encrypt something, I use GPG locally.

Arkhive,

Another Fastmail user. I’m happy with it. The unlimited alias and masked emails are nice. From what I can tell I’ve only ever gotten emails from things I have directly and explicitly given my info to, so I’m assuming my email address isn’t being sold around resulting in lots of spam.

Father_Redbeard,
@Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml avatar

Recent convert myself. And now that I’ve experienced mail, calendar, notes, and file storage all in the same app (android, at least) I can’t go back to separate apps.

Sunny,

Gonna suggest a more lowkey one, runbox.com

elias_griffin,
@elias_griffin@lemmy.world avatar

Posteo

OhVenus_Baby,

This is a great service. Easy, simple, everything just works. If you want a simple no BS email that’s like a dollar a month or so they are pretty good. A lot of encryption features and privacy settings. Completely renewable powered. I wish more companies were as Eco friendly as posteo. Worth checking them out.

pedroapero,

Checkout the list of recommendations published by the Free Software Foundation: www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems

lud,

Why do they hate JS so much? Haven’t they used the modern internet?

kevincox,
@kevincox@lemmy.ml avatar

Because proprietary JS is non-free software and they are against running non-free software.

mojoaar,
@mojoaar@lemmy.world avatar

Will drop migadu into the pool of sugestions.

liliumstar,

I believe cocks.li is still open, so you could use them. You said in another reply that you’re not savvy enough for your own domain, but if you change your mind, purelymail.com With your own domain, you can easily switch providers without losing access to your addresses.

Scolding0513,

dont use cocks.li lol, it has a bad reputation

InternetCitizen2,

Hmmm

Scolding0513,

penis 😳

liliumstar,

For what reason? Just curious. Don’t use them for anything critical.

Scolding0513,

they are known for being used for bomb threats or 4chan weirdos. but yeah i wouldn’t use them for anything serious. you dont wanna have to say THAT email address over the phone to customer support of your bank or something lol.

nameisnotimportant,
@nameisnotimportant@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m pretty sure it’s cock.li instead of cocks.li

liliumstar,

Yup, thanks for the correction

Lemmchen,

posteo.de or mailbox.org

3w0,

Used both of these for years and years, no issues.

Ohh,

Purelymail.com

nix,

I use mailbox.org personally. Disroot is probably fine. Do they have 2FA? That would be the most essential thing you want here if you’re worried about being hacked by an outside party. 2FA would even mitigate a password leak in most cases, since they’d only have 1 of the authentication factors.

If you’re worried about hacking, you can do some things to mitigate the damage that would cause. Download important old emails and delete them from the server, this is pretty easy to do in a desktop client (like thunderbird or outlook) where you’d just move them to a local folder. That way if someone gains access, or they sell to someone that processes the data, they won’t have the old emails (unless they for some reason retained a separate copy, which seems doubtful).

Sign your email up for haveibeenpwned.com. Then you’ll get notifications if there’s any data leaks, including of your email provider. Obviously this is only useful if nobody has stolen your account before the leak is reported, but that’s more likely than not (unless you’re a particularly valuable target for some reason).

Psych,

Thanks for these I’ll try some of these things you mentioned .

K4mpfie,

+1 for Mailbox.org Comes with a great feature set and is inexpensive

SeekPie,

I also use mailbox.org, specifically the 1€/month tier. I’d recommend it.

Harvest5634,

StartMail, Soverin, Disroot, Infomaniak Kmail, Mailfence, Mailbox.org, Kolab Now And Posteo

Psych,

Thanks for the list which one would you recommend out of these ?

Harvest5634,

Maybe kMail(very beautiful) or disroot(more about freedom and not very beautiful). Both open source.

Harvest5634, (edited )

Or if you have a lot of money - StartMail. It has unlimited aliasing feature and UI is very good.

tmpod,

If you have your own domain, I recommend Migadu. They take care of all the boring parts of hosting email, while being cheap and very reliable. All you have to do is[1] follow their guude to setup some DNS records and double check everything is right. After that, you have a working email account with unlimited addresses, inboxes and a bunch more nice features.

[1]: Besides getting a domain name, which you should get anyway, since it gives you more control over your digital identity and makes it much easier to migrate providers in the future.

Psych,

Uh I’m not that tech savy but thanks for the suggestion .

tmpod,

I understand.
You could look into getting a domain either way, it really is pretty simple — you go to a registrar website (I like porkbun.com), choose your domain name and purchase it. To get the email stuff going, it’s just a bit of copy pasting between their guide and the domain’s control panel.

Like I said, this domain stuff is useful outside of Migadu and similar services, but for a more 0-config option, I think disroot is alright. You also have a mailbox.org and StartMail (from StartPage).

lemmyvore,

It’s also cheap. Not free but their lowest plan is something like $12/year.

They also let you make unlimited aliases and even wildcard aliases which are great for making up addresses on the fly so you never use the same address with two websites, and fighting spam.

TheSun,

$19 USD/year for micro now, $90USD/year for mini

lemmyvore,

Ah cool. It’s starts being very competitive very fast if you need more than one mailbox and/or more than one domain. Regular services will ask for something like $5/mo (per domain and per mailbox!) which adds up very quickly.

Wish more services used the “all you can eat” model. Charging for emails sent/received and for storage space is all that’s needed. Charging for “mailboxes” or “domains” or “aliases” has always been a scam.

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