So let's say I wanna ping 1.1.1.1... every 5 seconds... forever. Alternatives?

Developers (two dudes) are super responsive and would likely release an IP customization feature upon request. Is there any service that would tolerate this [D]DOS-y kind of behavior that would feel more privacy friendly than Cloudflare?

IsThereNet [for macOS] watches for internet connection status changes and draws a colored line at the top of the screen to indicate the status.


Edit: Thanks everybody!

(1) ICMP (Internet Control Message Protocol) Echo Requests hardly constitute a burden on a server.
(2) There is little privacy concern simply exposing your IP to Cloudflare.
(3) Uptime-Kuma can be self hosted to accomplish this task with more bells and whistles.
(4) There is an appetite for daydreaming of DDOSing bad Alphabetic actors ;) You civilly digidisobedient rascals!

parody,

Thanks everybody!

(1) ICMP (Internet Control Message Protocol) Echo Requests hardly constitute a burden on a server.
(2) There is little privacy concern simply exposing your IP to Cloudflare.
(3) Uptime-Kuma can be self hosted to accomplish this task with more bells and whistles.
(4) There is an appetite for daydreaming of DDOSing bad Alphabetic actors ;) You civilly digidisobedient rascals!

MeetInPotatoes,

ping 1.1.1.1 -n 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

parody,

u won’t

ExtremeDullard, (edited )
@ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Funny, I wanna ping 8.8.8.8 every microsecond forever, and make as many machines as possible all around the world do the same…

mox,

Not a Google fan, huh?

parody,

In 2004 I would not have understood why!

parody,

Naughty naughty 🙂

rcbrk,

x.x.x.x))<ICMP>((1.1.1.1

parody,

Most succinct yet informative possible description of IsThereNet, I think :)

jokeyrhyme, (edited )
@jokeyrhyme@lemmy.ml avatar

Hmmm, is CloudFlare known for being a bad actor in terms of privacy?

Setting that aside, no matter what you pick, you’ll be exposing your IP address, from which your ISP and/or general location may be derived

If you don’t trust CloudFlare with that information then you basically cannot trust anyone else, so maybe you’d need to run your own service and ping that instead now that you’re in a situation where you can only trust yourself 🤷

The other issue that comes to mind is that you’re only testing reachability to one address, which means you could get a false negative where that address stops working but the rest of the internet is actually fine

parody,

Ah, my threat model isn’t that Snowden, thanks.

you could get a false negative

Good point. Will keep that in mind in general. (For this specific use case? Maybe it’s fine since if I see the red bar while my apps are still working, I could ignore it - but now I’ll think back to your comment and understand maybe Cloudflare is experiencing an issue. In which case I’ll check their status pages and wouldn’t be surprised to see some news article or complaints too!)

TexMexBazooka,

1.1.1.1 is cloudflare dns. You can run a constant ping to it, forever, with no problem. Same with 8.8.8.8, which is google. If you want something more FOSS oriented, go with OpenDNS.

Doing so doesn’t really expose much information about you, the concern here really isn’t warranted

parody,

Neat - thanks. Looks like one could use the following, but not necessary:


<span style="color:#323232;">208.67.222.222  
</span><span style="color:#323232;">208.67.220.220
</span>
dataprolet,
@dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You could use Uptime-Kuma to actually ping any IP every 5 seconds.

parody,

I am so installing this! Will be very useful beyond the simple use case in my OP. Thanks Data.

douglasg14b,
@douglasg14b@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think the concern over pinging 1.1.1.1 is warranted.

ICMP is pretty raw Network traffic, meaning you’re not really causing much actual load here.

You can’t even really try to DDOS with normal ICMP packets. You usually have have to max it’s size out at 64KB with an ICMP floor to even think of having an effect. Vs the, effectively inconsequential, 32 bytes of a normal ICMP packet.

You watching a short YouTube video is equivalent Network load as 180 days of pinging for Network up time.

parody,

Thanks for the explanation and easily digestible analogy :)

mox,

Maybe a pool of big corp captive portal / connectivity test servers? For example:

developers.cloudflare.com/…/firewall/-por…

android.googlesource.com/…/NetworkMonitor.java#10…

parody,

Clever! Thanks for finding those links too.

narc0tic_bird,

Ping your own VPS?

parody,

Good alternative, thanks!

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