AbackDeckWARLORD,
TheAlbatross,

Don’t really matter until he stops sending them bombs and billions tho innit

100_percent_a_bot,

He already restricted visas for extremist settlers in the west bank. Making all further aid dependent on curbing the fuckery in this area is probably the way to go. It’s pretty unlikely that the US can do more than delay strikes by Israel when it comes to further actions in Gaza, they don’t have nearly as much control over them as everyone makes it seem.

toallpointswest,
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@100_percent_a_bot @TheAlbatross

No, but the US can sure as hell stop contributing to it. Then, they can go further and stop protecting them at the UN.

100_percent_a_bot,

Why would they do that? The UN is like 50 Muslim countries, pretty much all of them theocracratic dictatorships. They usually vote as a block against Israel which is pretty bs considering there is one jewish state with one voice.

toallpointswest,
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@100_percent_a_bot Israel is committing genocide, we don't give a flying fuck about their opinion

100_percent_a_bot,

Assad killed like two million people in his own country, many of them with fkin nerve gas. Where are the people calling this a genocide? Where’s the condemnation by the Arab league? They don’t give a shit and they wouldn’t say a word if it was Egypt who was taking out hamas in Gaza right now.

toallpointswest,
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@100_percent_a_bot That's horrible!!! How many billions did America give him to do that?

... Awkward

100_percent_a_bot,

About 12 billion from what I can find

toallpointswest,
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@100_percent_a_bot We gave Israel 12 billion to massacre Palestinians you mean

100_percent_a_bot,

No you guys spent like 12 billion on “humanitarian aid” for the Assad regime

toallpointswest,
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@100_percent_a_bot Oh, so we didn't send the missiles and bombs?

Like you and the US are sending to Israel for their "defense" against 6 years olds

100_percent_a_bot,

Why are you this unhinged lmao

Just let them take out hamas so this shit show called Gaza can move towards becoming a semi functional state that doesn’t shoot rockets on Isreal all day every day

toallpointswest,
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@100_percent_a_bot btw, most people shoot at their foreign occupier, it's considered "self-defense"

100_percent_a_bot,

How is arbitrarily shooting rockets in Israels general direction and occasionally hitting your own hospitals self defense? And how is this helping anyone?

Over the past centuries they fought their fight, lost over and over again and are now in a dead end. Now hamas has to be thrown out so the Palestinians vote someone in who can actually be negotiated with.

toallpointswest,
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@100_percent_a_bot Considering Israel has been the one refusing to negotiate and sabotaged the formation of a Palestinian state, your comment reeks of ignorance

But if you think that legitimate Palestinian resistance fighters should have guided weapons, I'd support that after all their colonizer does

100_percent_a_bot,

Negotiating with a party that was specifically founded to destroy Israel is pointless. Also Palestine could be a state if Abbas didn’t fuck up the negotiations by demanding more and more and walking away with nothing in the end.

Them not having better weapons is something I’d consider a skill issue. They suck at politics and have to rely on Iran and jihads because everyone else in the area will loudly condemn Israel while quietly doing fuckall and endorsing Israel curbstomping hamas.

toallpointswest,
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@100_percent_a_bot That's hilarious considering that Israel is the one that doesn't recognize Palestine...while the Palestinians (as part of the Oslo Accords) recognized Israel

And no, they would have had a "provisional" state.. whatever the fuck that is. Stop lying.

As for the rest, literally irrelevant to Israel's military Occupation of them. That's Israel's fault and the own the sole blame for their own actions.

Are you an Israeli?

100_percent_a_bot,

That’s usually how it goes. They’d have a provisional state that gets more and more jurisdiction and responsibilities over time, finally becoming a state at some point. That is unless they do unhinged psycho shit like instigating countless terrorist insurgencies and constant rocket attacks. No one should have to put up with any of this.

That Gaza is still occupied is the fault of Palestineans doing unhinged psycho shit. Casting yourself as a victim doesn’t work if you’re a crybully and everyone can see your insane behavior.

My nationality is not important to any of my beliefs on this but no, I’m not Isreali. I don’t even think they are flawless or anything, quite the contrary but there’s being a flawed democracy and being whatever the hell Gaza is supposed to be.

toallpointswest,
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@100_percent_a_bot There's no such thing as a provisional state. Israel was never a provisional state That's literally bullshit. That is typical israelially propaganda

The Palestinians including Gaza because we're also talking about the West Bank here too is occupied by the Israeli, no one else only them. The Palestinians are not Occupying the Israeli. You keep trying to skip over that part. But now we can add genocide to it too

100_percent_a_bot,

That’s absolutely not true, provisional states are very much real. There was a provisional German state after the collapse of the German Reich that existed from 45-49, before the creation of East- and West- Germany. There also was the British mandate for the area after the collapse of ottoman empire. So in a way there also was a provisional Israel.

The rest you write here is jibberish to me, but sure, the Isreali have been genociding Palestine for 70 years, more than doubling their numbers in the process. Seems like they are the least competent genocides in history.

toallpointswest,
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@100_percent_a_bot and now you're just lying.

Worse throwing out irrelevant topics to push your pro-genocide agenda. You would make a worker at Auschwitz

100_percent_a_bot,

Bro just look it up. At least be informed when pretending to care about specific things.

toallpointswest,
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@100_percent_a_bot The nice thing is that I'm properly informed, not ignoring facts and reality because you need to push a genocidal agenda

toallpointswest,
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@100_percent_a_bot Also Israel used terrorism ( the Israeli Irgun terrorists)just fine to kick the British army out so that "provisional" bullshit you're trying doesn't fly

Nothing you've said justifies genocide

100_percent_a_bot,

Yeah would be really bad if they were actually doing a genocide then

toallpointswest,
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@100_percent_a_bot Yeah, 30,000 dead , destruction of culturally significant locations, educational facilities, cemeteries, unrelated civilian infrastructure with no plans to restore any of those things while committing ethnic cleansing

Israel is committing genocide, just it was done by Nazi Germany to their ancestors, they just haven't hit the millions of fatalities... yet

100_percent_a_bot,

You must be some kind of neurodivergent, right? There’s no way anyone who’s somewhat well adjusted (or at least well medicated) is this unhinged and this historically illiterate. No, even mathematically illiterate. Israel has killed like half of hamas already, while maintaining a combatant to civilian death ratio somewhere between 1-3 & 1-4. This is remarkable since hamas is doing their best to get their own civilians killed by colocating ammo and fuel dumps within civilian infrastructure (warcrime btw) and running their command centers within hospitals (also warcrime). The idea that Isreals military is conducting a genocide is laughable, considering they could have murdered everyone within there within weeks, yet they somehow don’t.

toallpointswest,
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@100_percent_a_bot Ah, when you starting losing you start attempting to insult the winner of the debate, it's obvious you're lying. Nearly 30,000 dead is indiscriminate, and intentional.

Remember, Israel isn't killing Hamas.. they're making the next generation of radicals. Just like Nazi Germany did.

Also, all of the Palestinians are forced to live in their Israeli made concentration camp, that Israel is now bombing.

Your problem, is that your lies aren't working anymore.

100_percent_a_bot,

I don’t recall insulting myself. And no, you’re lying when you say that Israel does indiscriminate bombings and just willy nilly killing civilians. Not even the ICJ case you’re probably soying out over tries to allege that. If they were, there would be at least half a million dead by now.

The people in Gaza are already radicalized and have been for years - jike nazi Germany before the war. That’s btw a way better nazi comparison. Just like nazi Germany, the hamas regime is now bombed into submissions and despite everything I’m hopeful that things will continue like with post ww2 Germany with hardcore deradicalization programs in cooperation with the surrounding states.

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