Maggoty,

Yup watching to see a Russian Agent get extradited finally.

JoeKrogan, (edited )
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

He’ll lose unfortunately, as he’s been designated an enemy of big daddy US and the UK will bend over backwards to make sure that happens. The whole thing is ridiculous, he’s been held for years now

Dkarma,

No one cares except fanboys.

Let the crook rot.

xor,

he’s not a crook… however, i question your morality

spez_,

Stupid brain-dead

Adanisi, (edited )
@Adanisi@lemmy.zip avatar

I’d argue the crooks are the ones who’ve committed war crimes and are very upset they got leaked.

Rakonat, (edited )

The fact that you’re being downvoted tells you a lot of people only got information of this Russian agent from wikileaks and other russian leaning sources.

Downvote me fanboys. He’s a political activist sitting on info to use when it’s most politically damaging, not acting quickly as possible to stop suffering. If he really gave a damn about anything but being an information broker he would have exposed all of Russias crap they did in Ukraine and Georgia since 2014, instead he was hyper focused on making the west look bad.

Edit: Oh look, the downvoted didn’t start till almost 7AM Moscow Time, surely that’s just a coincidence!

Telodzrum,

This is a different woman than the one he raped, right?

xor,

he was never actually accused of raping anyone…

spez_,

Stupid brain-dead

GentlemanLoser,

You keep saying this, are you having a stroke?

PugJesus,
@PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

Yep, watching to see if fame can still get you out of consequences for your crimes.

spez_,

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  • jordanlund,
    @jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

    Removed, keep it civil.

    Tangent5280,

    Keep worshipping Big Brother. You’re nothing but fodder for the state machine, and the saddest part is how comfortable you are being fodder.

    AshMan85,

    Hang the Russian spy

    13esq,

    How is he a Russian spy?

    Wiki leaks are published for all to view, not just Russia.

    n2burns,

    I don’t agree with the root comment, but Wikileaks has repeatedly ignored leaks of Russian classified info and many of their sources appear to be Russian Intelligence.

    NOT_RICK,
    @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

    I wouldn’t characterize him as a Russian spy, more of an asset. Wikileaks selectively released information rather than being the safe harbor for all intelligence leaks that they purported to be.

    bigMouthCommie,
    @bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

    >Wikileaks selectively released information rather than being the safe harbor for all intelligence leaks that they purported to be.

    what makes you think that it was any more than only releasing important leaks? no one cares about the timeclock at mcdonald's on 5th and main.

    NOT_RICK,
    @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

    Curious how all the leaks about Russia were deemed unimportant

    bigMouthCommie,
    @bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

    wasn't he taking asylum in russia? do you really think he should have made enemies there when the US et al were already trying to jail him?

    PugJesus,
    @PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

    wasn't he taking asylum in russia? do you really think he should have made enemies there when the US et al were already trying to jail him?

    what makes you think that it was any more than only releasing important leaks?

    bigMouthCommie,
    @bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

    oh no! the situation is complex and it's possible that even the best actors had to make some tough decisions.

    PugJesus,
    @PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

    Are you the actor making the tough decision to knowingly make disingenuous arguments?

    ickplant,
    @ickplant@lemmy.world avatar

    You’re thinking of Snowden. Assange was at an Ecuadorian embassy in London. Two very different cases.

    bigMouthCommie,
    @bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

    oh. then is there any reason at all to think he got leaks about russia that were worth publishing?

    NOT_RICK,
    @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

    Someone who worked inside Wikileaks certainly felt they were newsworthy

    We had several leaks sent to Wikileaks, including the Russian hack. It would have exposed Russian activities and shown WikiLeaks was not controlled by Russian security services,” the source who provided the messages wrote to FP. “Many Wikileaks staff and volunteers or their families suffered at the hands of Russian corruption and cruelty, we were sure Wikileaks would release it. Assange gave excuse after excuse.”

    You can read more here

    bigMouthCommie,
    @bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

    Foreign Policy endorsed Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton in the 2016 US presidential election. This was the first time in its 50-year history the magazine endorsed a candidate.

    you will forgive me if i don't find your source to be credible in this regard.

    NOT_RICK,
    @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

    I mean, did you see the other guy?

    bigMouthCommie,
    @bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

    I actually read the piece after checking for bias, and all the most damning stuff is innuendo. it's a nothing burger.

    NOT_RICK,
    @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s a fact that WL refused to publish the document cache with the justification being that the data was already out in the open but that wasn’t true as only half of it had already been reported on. How is that innuendo?

    bigMouthCommie,
    @bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

    >but that wasn’t true as only half of it had already been reported on

    it seems to me that it was totally out (or later became totally available), regardless of the reporting that was done. it's innuendo to imply that they refused to publish it for any reason outside of their normal editorial standards.

    NOT_RICK,
    @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

    I agree there is no smoking gun per se, but I find the justification that it would “distract” from the 2016 election leaks to be incredibly flimsy. The rest of the info got out on the internet through sources other than WL.

    The refusal to publish also contradicts Assange’s claims in 2010 to publish documents on any institution that resisted oversight. The Kremlin couldn’t fit more squarely into that bucket.

    bigMouthCommie,
    @bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

    he can still "publish documents on any institution that resisted oversight" without publishing every document about such an institution. any particular document or set of documents may be unable to be verified or not of particular interest or already available through other sources. he didn't promise to publish every byte that mentioned the kremlin regardless of his editorial standards.

    xor,

    curious how you’re obsessed with repeating that lie over and over again…

    NOT_RICK,
    @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

    If you say so

    xor,

    keep on obsessively repeating that lie without actually checking it out, then

    NOT_RICK,
    @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s not a lie, he refused to publish the Kremlin leaks for reasons I found paper thin. Sorry we don’t agree, I’ll refrain from calling you names because what’s the fucking point?

    xor,

    yeah well can you provide a real source for that? maybe other than “one secret person told this paper, and by golly we believe them!”

    xor,

    lying shill

    NOT_RICK,
    @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

    Me or Julian?

    xor,

    you

    spez_,

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  • jordanlund,
    @jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

    Removed, keep it civil.

    GentlemanLoser,

    S A L T Y

    xor,

    shill

    Maggoty,

    GRU basically runs WikiLeaks.

    13esq,

    Source: dude, trust me

    Maggoty,

    Lmao. I wasn’t born yesterday. There’s been years of news on this. That’s an extremely poor attempt at gaslighting.

    13esq, (edited )

    There’s been years of propaganda on this.

    A guy embarrasses the richest and most powerful people in the world by telling you the dirty secrets they were hiding from you. And when they tell you that it’s the messenger who’s the enemy, you believe them SMH.

    If you’re against wikileaks, you’re against the rights of journalists and you’re opposed to the freedom of information.

    Maggoty,

    Nope. If NYT wants to publish stuff about warrantless wiretapping that’s fine. More power to them.

    WikiLeaks edited video and text content from day 1. The US Army caught them out several times by just releasing the full video. They didn’t even try with the DNC emails, they put sensational headers on them had nothing to do with what was written in the email. Then there’s the revelations of the GOP and RUS hacks which somehow have yet to see the light of day.

    So yeah after that fumbling attempt at creating propaganda it wasn’t exactly a surprise to find out the Russian GRU were essentially running the site by the mid 2010’s. Assange went beyond journalism and into foreign agent territory when he edited his stuff out of truthfulness and selectively released documents to influence American politics.

    So no you don’t get to tie him to investigative journalism like the Panama Papers.

    anlumo,

    How much does the US pay for working as one of their propagandists?

    demonsword,
    @demonsword@lemmy.world avatar

    plenty of dupes do that work for free

    spez_,

    Yeah like these idiots on Lemmy. They need to go back to Reddit

    NOT_RICK,
    @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

    Says the dude with a Reddit reference for a username, lol

    Sorry people not echoing your sentiments puts your panties in a twist.

    GentlemanLoser,

    sToOpId bRaYn dEd

    Potatisen,

    Then there wold be a bunch of American politicians hanging.

    NOT_RICK,
    @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

    I see no issue

    njm1314,

    Don’t threaten me with a good time.

    bigMouthCommie,
    @bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

    he's an australian journalist, actually.

    AshMan85,

    Don’t matter what country or occupation, he is still a Russian spy lol

    bigMouthCommie,
    @bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

    do you have any proof for your accusation?

    spez_,

    Stupid brain-dead

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