Each side wants the complete destruction of the other.
I don’t think this is true. Hamas’ charter supports a two state solution, for example.
We can’t just say “be peaceful” and walk away and know that they will never attack each other again.
No shit. Did you even read what I wrote?
You can’t have perpetual peace in this ongoing conflict man
You get peace by addressing the issues that created the conflict. Is this not obvious? It’s ongoing because of shit like the illegal settlements and the blockade of Gaza. The land was stolen but agreements can be reached to split it, if the sides are willing. Of course they tried with the Oslo Accords and it didn’t go so well (eg the illegal settlements yet again). Calling it a perpetual conflict is giving up. We need a peace agreement which is actually enforced.
“Dehamasification” isn’t bombing and killing all of Hamas, so no I don’t think the current situation is being successful. It’s a long term project that will likely take decades, with an international occupation force overseeing it.
But yeah fair enough. So if this is not working we need an immediate ceasefire. And yeah I agree it will take time.
But this specific conflict does not end until Hamas surrenders. Israel will not stop until that end is met. We can argue all day about the morality of that, but it doesn’t matter, that’s the reality of the facts on the ground at this moment
The morality does matter. Israel is not a force of nature. What they are doing is wrong and we need an international coalition to make them stop. “The reality of the facts on the ground” is that innocent people are dying every day and Israel is making that happen. And Hamas kicked off this particular round of fighting so they also get some of the blame.
Edit, missed this part:
Like post-war Germany, this won’t be some overnight fix. It will take immense resources and effort. Is that going to happen?
It should. I don’t know how this will end but we can’t just allow this to continue. Nobody wants another October 7th and nobody wants another 8 months of livestreamed war crimes in response