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machinin,

It would also help if he stops SUPPORTING THE FUCKING ISRAELI GENOCIDE.

Columbia faculty members walk out after pro-Palestinian protesters arrested (www.theguardian.com)

A huge crowd of faculty members who teach at Columbia University in New York held a mass walk-out on Monday afternoon to protest the institution having called police to arrest students at a pro-Palestinian encampment protest last week....

machinin, (edited )

Good on the faculty.

We can continue to see Israel’s playbook here. Any criticism of their despicable actions (was genocide ever mentioned in the article?) gets converted to antisemitism.

I hope the protestors keep it up. Force the media outlets to say the word genocide. Don’t let them ignore what’s going on with the Palestinians.

machinin,

I think you can agree that we can support a group that is suffering from genocide to fight back and it isn’t necessarily antisemitic. Of course, there may be antisemitism from some sectors, but Israel conflates criticism and antisemitism all the time. As a result, at this point, I don’t think it is a big concern. Allowing the protestors to fight against a genocidal nation is the more important issue.

machinin,

Exactly, you have people protesting a genocide, and then there are students carrying the flag of the genocidal nation to provoke the protestors. To me, I would probably treat it as a white supremacist carrying a Nazi flag to a George Floyd protest.

I agree with the other poster, this article is revolting in it’s one-sided treatment of the issue.

machinin,

He said…

I think that is the point. So far Biden has apparently just said a bunch of words. Biden could actually do more than he is now. Instead, the genocide is continuing unabated, Israel continues to aggressively and wrecklessly escalate the regional tensions.

Come on genocide Joe, actually draw a red line and stick to it.

machinin, (edited )

I thought one of the best lessons was that you don’t deal with an aggressive and genocidal nation through appeasement.

We should be fighting against Israel, not appeasing them.

machinin,

Call it the the genocidal problem. The issues isn’t with Jews in general, just people who are carrying out and supporting the genocide. I would lump Biden in with them as well.

machinin,

That is what I was thinking, but also wonder if it was part of their show of power. They telegraphed their intentions fairly clearly. If they intentionally disabled half of the drones after take off, then it might simply be an additional warning. If this attack was shot down, could double the drones also be shot down? Just speculation, but I do have a feeling that there is more to it than just half malfunctioned.

machinin,

This was also a great leaning experience for the US and the other participants. With Ukraine’s experience against the Russian invasion, we’re seeing how drones are completely changing military strategy. Strategists all over the world are probably reviewing this “battle” to learn as much as they can to later apply it to both offensive and defensive weapons.

machinin,

I would hold my nose to vote for Biden if my vote really counted, but I will still call him genocide Joe. If he continues down this path, I hope he is forever known as Genocide Joe. Let history know it.

Iran launches drone attack against Israel as Biden rushes to White House (www.theguardian.com)

Iran said it launched dozens of drones and ballistic missiles towards Israel on Saturday in a major attack following days of acute tension building up in the region and warnings from the US and elsewhere about a wider conflict erupting....

machinin,

Has the US ever bombed an embassy? Knowing your post history, I have a feeling you left out that detail for a reason.

machinin,

As an apologist for the genocide, I know why you do it, I just want other people to see your strategy.

machinin,

Good, 25 years ago and not a part of this conflict. And it was a huge issue. The OP is trying to omit that part of the story.

In any case, hopefully Israel gets what it deserves for the genocide it’s committing.

Aid ‘still not reaching Gaza’, as top US official warns famine has started (www.theguardian.com)

However, truck owners involved in the food deliveries, mostly Egyptian hauliers, are reluctant to let their vehicles be used inside Gaza for fear of them bombed or ransacked by starving Gazans. There is also a shortage of willing drivers after repeated incidents of aid trucks coming under fire, of which the WCK bombing has been...

machinin,

hatered

Pretty much what I expect from someone who is still a musk fan.

machinin,

A nuclear Iran to counter an unhinged, nuclear, and genocidal Israel maybe isn’t the worst thing.

machinin,

Obviously the US and Europe isn’t up to countering the genocidal lunatics in charge of Israel. How else can we stop the genocide?

Yes, nuclear proliferation is horrible, but MAD was the basis of much of the last century’s global framework for a reason. When you have a rogue nation like Israel threatening the whole region, I don’t know a better alternative. Do you?

machinin,

By the way, I just read through your profile. I have a feeling that the paid propaganda accusation may be projection? You seem to accuse a lot of people of it. Your victim complex is pretty heavy too.

Maybe all those downvotes you’re getting are because you have extreme, shitty positions?

machinin,

For all your bitching in your post history about people putting words in your mouth, you sure are quick to misrepresent my position.

So, in your opinion, how do you stop the genocidal and regionally destabilizing actions of Israel? How would you fight the psychopaths running that country?

machinin,

So the genocide is all Hamas’s fault. Gotcha’.

No wonder you get downvoted everywhere you post. You seem like an absolutely abhorrent individual.

machinin, (edited )

So just surrending to the genocidal maniacs is the best way to stop the genocide.

neither Hamas, nor their supporters (paid or otherwise) have an interest in seeing this end.

So Israel could completely subvert Hamas’s plans by simply refraining from killing the children, women, civilians, journalists, aid workers, then allowing the aid convoys in with their food so people aren’t starving any more, rebuild the health care infrastructure they destroyed, liberate the children and civilians they are holding captive under military tribunals, returning stolen land to the Palestinians and tear down the apartheid apparatus. How could they lose with that strategy? Seems like a win for everyone involved, and you can defeat Hamas along with all the other benefits!

For some reason, I don’t think the genocidal maniacs in Israel want that solution.

machinin,

So I imagine you think Israel is actually treating the Palestinians with respect and dignity?

Best that you scamper away from this little conversation. I think everyone sees you are part of the problem with Israel.

Fuck Israel.

machinin,

Let’s start by giving them statehood, right?

machinin,

The Palestinians, or do you think they should always be under the heal of the Israelis?

machinin,

Okay, so just so I understand your correctly, you support a two-state solution. Israel could even start with the West Bank?

machinin,

Of course not, but the West Bank seems like the perfect place to start the process for Statehood. Kick out all of the thieving, scumbag settlers that have invaded the Palestinian lands, put the IDF agents up for trial that enabled the theft. Surely you can support that, right?

I just want to be able to show link back to this conversation at some point to show that WamGams actually cares for the Palestinian people and you aren’t just talking out of your ass.

machinin,

So you’re just talking out of your ass.

Once again, fuck Israel. I hope anyone who supports this genocide (anyone serving with IDF included) suffers the same violence as the Palestinians living under this genocide.

machinin,

Again, bitching about people misrepresenting your statements while doing the same.

machinin,

So is this the “do you condemn Hamas” part of the Israeli propaganda machine? You’re part of the meme!

Do you condemn the genocide? Not once have you said the genocide was bad.

If you aren’t pro-genocide, please outline how so now.

machinin,

Come on, just say “Fuck Isreal,” then we’ll know you are real and not some propaganda bot. Just say it, Fuck Israel, Fuck Israel, Fuck Israel. I’m sure you can say it, right?

machinin,

Yeah, fuck you. Condemn the genocide or fuck off .

machinin,

Are you pro-genocide? Fuck off. I hope terrorism succeeds against a genocidal regime.

What do you prefer? Genocide?

machinin,

Do you condemn the genocide?

machinin,

I doubt that. I’m all for a two-state solution.

machinin,

Come on, you also have to say that the IDF and Likud are up for war crimes. They should be tried for crimes against humanity.

machinin,

And you at obviously ignorant as fuck.

I wish you the same treatment as the Palestinian people.

machinin,

So, you aren’t willing to condemn the genocide?

Again, I wish you the same treatment as the Palestinians.

machinin,

How did I wish for the genocide of the Jews? By saying I hope the same as the Palestinians? So you agree that the Palestinians are suffering from genocide?

machinin,

Again, your accusations are simply projecting.

Fuck Israel and their genocidal maniacs.

machinin,

Yes, fuck all people who commit genocide. Israel is first. Fuck them.

machinin,

Good, then fuck anyone that kills any Palestinians, right? We both hope they burn in hell, correct?

machinin,

Probably not a recruiter, but supporting those who are trying to switch or are needing support on forums like here or other places. Help them find solutions, be kind to them when they are struggling, encourage them if another user is derisive.

machinin,

I guess this is one of the 3000 hostages that Hamas is fighting to release?

Fuck Israel.

machinin,

So what was the last time they demanded the release of hostages for?

machinin,

If you think all their actions are only meant for political posturing, sounds like you’re the fool. Humans and movements like that aren’t so one dimensional. We are much more complicated.

I’m any case, one more time for good measure, fuck Israel.

Biden backs Schumer after senator calls for new elections in Israel (apnews.com)

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden expressed support Friday for Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer after the senator called for new elections in Israel, the latest sign that the U.S. relationship with its closest Middle East ally is careening toward fracture over the war in Gaza....

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