RULES UPDATE: MOLDY POSTING AND AI POSTING

Sorry for two new pinned posts within the span of 24 hours. after coming back I figured some of the rules needed some updating, and it is policy to put any rule change up to vote for the members.

The two changes I currently would like to make, is increased enforcement of the moldy posting rule, and a new rule banning AI generated content.

moldy posting is when you post a meme that you would find on your aunt’s Facebook page or Elon musk’s Twitter account. I’m talking properly old, moldy, watermarked, painfully irrelevant posts. I think we should remove them simply because they kind of suck, and removing them would raise the level of quality of 196.

I believe we should ban AI generated content because it is exploitative by nature, and I don’t think we should be feeding it.

please discuss in the comments, and vote on whether or not you think these changes should be made. vote on each change separately. if there are any other rule changes that you would like to suggest, now is the time.

janet_catcus,

i have no aunt and i dont follow the loner, i am (not really) looking forward to learn what moldy memes are…

oh and fuck ai from the orbit, it’s the only way to be sure.

Korne127,
@Korne127@lemmy.world avatar

I disagree with the rule banning AI content. Especially the dumb original imgflip AI can just generate super funny dumb captions to classical meme templates, and there is no harm in doing this (you cannot even decide with 100% certainty whether a human or an AI has generated it).
I also used to generate dumb nonsense jokes with the early open source LLMs (long before ChatGPT got released).

I think saying AI content is exploitative in nature is a bit short-sighted and just generalizing about all the different types of AI. If I, e.g. program my own AI to e.g. play a game, and make a meme about that, that’s not exploitative. Imitating people’s art without their consent is something different though.

I think it would be good to revisit this rule and maybe specify what exact content are not allowed or think about this, since generally there can be good AI meme content (also on a meta-layer, e.g. about people who take obvious fake AI pictures as something real) and just outright banning all of them is a bad idea in my opinion.

spujb,

this is me voicing my dissent against the moldy posts rule, including restricting them to mondays. unless presented with a very clear set of examples that we can all (or majority) agree on, i think there’s no real utility to the rule and it just makes me afraid to post an image that i find genuinely funny.

on a level of pure aesthetics, it also just has a gross feel and i don’t want to log in on mondays to the word ‘moldy’ all over my feed ☹️

@moss please reconsider this rule or provide more information on the kind of content you intend on removing. i believe this choice to be contra to the spirit of 196.

good choice banning AI tho, thanks for that. 👍

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

I’m in favor of “Moldy Mondays” as some people have mentioned.

And I support banning AI images, but not when it’s like a Twitter screenshot that says something about the image.

Franzia,

I really disliked this feature of many reddit subs where they’d have day of the week themes and posts. This idea in itself is moldy, its just reminds me of a smelly office atmosphere.

Nimfi,
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    moss,

    real and valid

    megopie,

    Oh my, are you not familiar with… chuck tingle? With his numerous works of ground breaking fiction? Such as, “space raptor butt invasion”, “Pounded in the butt by my own butt”, “Absolutely No Thoughts Of Pounding During My Fun Day With This Kind T-Rex Because I’m Aromantic And Asexual And That’s A Wonderfully Valid Way Of Proving Love Is Real”, “ Trans Wizard Harriet Porber And The Bad Boy Parasaurolophus” and of course who could forget “Oppressed In The Butt By My Inclusive Holiday Coffee Cups”

    Stovetop,

    I’m indifferent to outdated and AI content.

    Personally I don’t think it’s worth adding more to the rules than needed, especially when there are already people confused about what counts and what doesn’t.

    FakeGreekGirl,

    I don’t like the idea of increasing enforcement against moldy posts, just because I’m not super plugged in to things and I don’t always know if something is moldy when I post it. Over enforcement of those kind of subjective rules tends to make it difficult for newbies to post.

    Completely on board with a no AI art rule though. Fuck AI.

    LinkOpensChest_wav,
    @LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I’ve Chuck Tingle posted in the past, so I was concerned that this was going to be an anti-Tingle policy, but fortunately it seems like it’s about other things

    moss,

    anti-tingle policy
    I’d rather die

    LinkOpensChest_wav,
    @LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    You are the best mod <3

    ShadowFox,
    @ShadowFox@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Not sure about the first change, but I absolutely support the second one. Fuck AI “art”!

    Rebels_Droppin,
    @Rebels_Droppin@lemmy.world avatar

    Moldy Mondays as another has mentioned is my vote. Ban ai posts though

    yessikg,
    @yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    I’m against banning moldy posting, I agree with banning AI

    KingThrillgore,
    @KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

    Most of my contributions are moldy memes so obviously I don’t agree with this rule. This would impact the already little effort I put into my posts. And I know effort isn’t something we put into 196 but that’s my observation. I’m willing to revisit this later.

    I support banning AI memes because those require less than zero effort already.

    S410,
    @S410@lemmy.ml avatar

    Ah yes, blanket banning things using logic riddled with faulty generalization and facts proven by assertion. Totally not a bad idea! Totally!

    EndlessApollo,

    AI poster spotted

    BloodSlut,

    i’m not here to contribute to the discussion

    i just wanted to say that chuck tingle is treasure to humanity

    superduperenigma,

    Totally in favor in banning AI content.

    Sometimes moldy content is funny, often times it just doesn’t land. Part of my concern with a moldy ban is that it seems a bit vaguely defined as is.

    Orbituary,
    @Orbituary@lemmy.world avatar

    Agreed. One man’s mold is another man’s psychedelic substance. It’s a subjective line that varies for everyone.

    AI is easy because the line is clear.

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