Two days ago, I wouldn’t have felt particularly strongly about this sentiment, but my last few comments yesterday had some interesting interpretations…
No this place is just full of bipolar virtue signaling fucks. A few weeks back a made a joke on a story about how a states new no permit open carry law. Said nothing about any group of people.
Some dude responded something to the effect of “why do you want women, gay people and black people to die?” This went on for quite a while. Him insisting that was my motivation, doubling down over and over.
And he was upvoted for this. Because…this is just how Lemmy operates.
Oh yes it can happen anywhere. But it is happening here much more than it happened to me on Reddit. Honestly at this point I’m really tempted to just give up all social media. I like having a website like this but… They all turn into toxic shit holes of one flavor or another in the end.
On the other side of this, what I find really common is anyone who acknowledges the reality of how the US voting structure works is seen as a Biden Stan
DNC famously prevent new problems like roe v. wade being repealed. the DNC doesnt prevent what the GOP does, at best it enables them, and at worst it just shifts right and joins them like it does on immigration now.
A Republican appointed the judges that did the thing, which was only possible because another Republican singlehandedly created vacancies at every level, and your trolling ass wants to cleverly investigate who got elected after the fix was in.
None of which would have been possible if more people voted for Democrats.
We would now need more Democrats elected to fix it, than we would have needed to stop it. Even if we somehow get that, god willing, but then they don’t fix it, their presence will stop Republicans from making it EVEN WORSE.
But you’re not listening to a goddamn word of this because you just want to go “both sides” and jerk off about the moral superiority of your complete worthless inaction.
You just didn’t get my point, voting democrats is useless because they don’t fix anything, they could have codified roe v wade at multiple points but didn’t. which enabled the right to take it away.
“stopping the republicans” is BS, it doesn’t work, you just temporarily pause them till they get back in the next cycle and push everything further right, which in turns pushes the democrats also further right.
“if more people voted for democrats” maybe doing something against the right instead of emotionally blackmailing people into voting for them by holding issues over their head that could have been settled decades ago would motivate more people to vote for them.
I am directly telling your point to go fuck itself.
Stop letting the worse party get in, ever! Fuck your emotions! This is hard practical logic - you’re not being asked to pledge loyalty and devotion, you’re being asked which set of assholes gets to be in power. Stop letting the worse assholes take power.
Also fuck your hypocrisy “holding issues over heads” when you keep namedropping Roe v. Wade and blaming the party that didn’t make it worse for not stopping the the party that made it worse.
Nothing wrong about acknowledging the reality of the system being a broken dichotomy, of course.
I’m talking about the people who shut down all valid criticism with the “but Trump is worse” whataboutism or “stop giving Trump ammunition” as if anyone sane didn’t already know Trump is awful and as if the Mango Mussolini wouldn’t just make shit up regardless…
That’s because it’s a common argument of Biden stans. It’s pretty telling that they can’t think of anything good to say about their candidate, so instead it’s this stuff.
Bad - Supporting Israel financially, forcing the rail workers back to work from their strike, his environmental policies seem half hearted.
Good - Forgiving large amounts of student loan debt, having his cabinet work with the DEA at reclassifing weed while promoting the idea publically, putting billions into Urban reconstruction to help cities become less dependent on roads and more accessible for the least fortunate.
It’s more nuanced than he’s great or awful. He’s just better. As it often ends up coming to in American politics.
Ok I’ve seen sources for the bad. Do you have sources for good that actually involve his intervention? I refer to the fact that the loan debt cancellations so far would have happened under any other administration. I ask what actual progress has the DEA undertaken if we are still having same discussion after four years. I refer to the “American Rescue Plan” being a literal extension of the “CARES Act” (So again not his plan). Please tell me what he has done that would not have been accomplished by a plank of wood?
an incredibly obsessed fan, usually to an unhealthy degree, but often used ironically to just mean “big fan”. named after the character stan from the eminem song stan.
Yeah, but people also have blinders as to how the actual voting structure works. If you’re in CA/NY for dems or AL/MS for repubs, your vote basically doesn’t matter since those places will go blue/red no matter what, so you’re 100% free to vote for the person/platform you actually like! Any insinuation that you might vote for someone other than Biden is met with immediate scorn and ridicule.
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