makeasnek,
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I’m glad to finally see this cockroach serve time for something but it unnerves me a bit that his something is ignoring a congressional subponea. We are given the fifth for a reason, I remember when this exact same subpoena power was directed against suspected communists during the red scare. And when republicans have used it in their numerous BS “house investigations” into everything from Fauci to Hunter’s laptop. Some of those lib subponea recipients rightfully told them to kick rocks because the investigations were stupid.

And when grand juries (a different kind of subponea power) have been used as fishing expeditions to disrupt activist groups, or target Wikileaks. Pushing a world where you can be forced to testify to the government is questionable imo. Giving people immunity and forcing them to testify isn’t a great solution either, as that information can still be used to further tyranny even if you cannot personally be charged with what you say. Our ability to refuse to cooperate is an important check on tyrrany, that’s why we have the 5th in the first place.

KoboldCoterie,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

The fact that we have people on minor drug offenses serving years in prison, but these assholes are negotiating when, if ever, they’re going to maybe serve a few-month sentence is such an outrageous failure of the justice system, I feel like there’s really no way to solve any of these issues without just tearing the whole institution down and rebuilding it from the ground up with new, reasonable rules.

not_that_guy05,

I mean we could have a peaceful revolution like they did in Europe 5-10 years ago. They pretty much removed everybody and voted everybody new in. The most peaceful revolution on books.

Kaput,

On a side note, you might find this revolution interesting, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet_Revolution?wprov=sfla…

not_that_guy05,

Thanks for the info I’ll look into it.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

That “we” is doing a lot of heavy lifting

JeeBaiChow,

Yes, but we’re talking about america here.

disguy_ovahea, (edited )

He’s awaiting appeal. The judge determines incarceration, house arrest, or a bail option during that time. That’s why he’s reporting to jail, and not prison.

This doesn’t affect his sentence. Unless he wins appeal, he will be serving time in prison.

grue,

A normal person would’ve been cuffed and led off to the cells pretty much immediately after sentencing, not scheduled a month afterward.

disguy_ovahea, (edited )

Not true. It’s a nonviolent crime. House arrest is more common than incarceration while awaiting appeal.

grue,

What are you talking about? Bannon isn’t awaiting trial; he’s been sentenced. It’s right there in the headline, FFS!

disguy_ovahea, (edited )

He is awaiting his appeal. That’s how sentencing during appeal works.

grue,

Normal people sit in a cell serving their sentence while awaiting appeal. Only elite fascist fucks get the kid-glove treatment and run around free until the judges can’t come up with a fig leaf to keep entertaining their lawyers’ bullshit motions anymore.

disguy_ovahea,

That’s not the case with most nonviolent crimes. There has to be reason for the judge to think that they’re at risk of committing more crime while awaiting appeal.

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