Ensign_Crab,

The party isn’t protecting progressive incumbents like it does centrist incumbents.

jeffw,

Evidence of that? I’m asking for a link.

Ensign_Crab,

For protecting centrist incumbents?

rollingstone.com/…/jim-clyburn-henry-cuellar-demo… There’s plenty of sources for this, as well as the “hE’s An InCuMbEnT” rationale.

If you want a source for the party not protecting progressive incumbents, it generally doesn’t make news when something doesn’t happen. If you can find a source for the party protecting a progressive against a centrist challenger, particularly in this election, It would be news to me.

jeffw,

No? We all know the one story. I’m asking for sources on your entire claim. The burden of proof is on you for making the claim lol. You clearly heard it somewhere, right?

The party turning on an incumbent would be huge news.

Ensign_Crab,

The party turning on an incumbent would be huge news.

They don’t need to turn on an incumbent and that isn’t my claim. They just have to refrain from protecting progressive incumbents, and I have seen no evidence that they’re protecting progressive incumbents. You’re demanding that I prove a negative and are putting words in my mouth.

jeffw,

They share finances, data, and a shit ton of other resources with every incumbent. I am asking you to provide evidence for your claim that they have treated a progressive incumbent differently from any other.

Ensign_Crab,

They share finances, data, and a shit ton of other resources with every incumbent.

My turn to ask for a source. I do not accept “behind the scenes.”

I am asking you to provide evidence for your claim that they have treated a progressive incumbent differently from any other.

I provided evidence of the party protecting an anti-choice anti-labor nra stooge. I cannot find any evidence of similar support for any progressive incumbent.

jeffw,

You’re bad at trolling lol.

“I don’t need sources, you need sources!!!”

Keep on keeping on. Lmk if you want to pull your head out of the sand and find evidence.

If you google this thing that’s existed for a long time called “Act Blue,” you’ll get info on how Dems share finances. VoteBuilder is the tool they usually use to share data. Every incumbent has access to the party’s data. You claim that some do not

If my daily experience doesn’t count as a source, then you pulling shit out of your ass doesn’t count either. At least I can pull up the data im talking about.

Ensign_Crab, (edited )

Every incumbent doesn’t get Pelosi and Clyburn stumping for them.

You’re still demanding that I prove a negative, and have made it clear that you always intended to dismiss any link I provided.

You’re bad at trolling lol.

You’re fantastic at it.

jeffw,

I’m asking you for evidence. Nice goalpost shifting though. Impressive how far you move them with each comment. If you’re willing to provide evidence for any position you’ve taken, I’d love that

Ensign_Crab,

Already provided evidence. You immediately ignored it in bad faith, like you intended to when you asked. You’ve spent the rest of the time demanding that I prove that something isn’t happening.

May as well demand that I prove unicorns don’t exist.

jeffw,

1 article is too much, huh? 1 source saying the Dems abandoned a progressive incumbent?

Ensign_Crab,

1 source saying the Dems abandoned a progressive incumbent?

And here you go again, trying to put words in my mouth. They pulled out all the stops for corrupt, anti-labor Coathanger Cuellar. They will NEVER do anything of the sort for a progressive.

I gave you an article. You ignored it. You never intended to do anything else.

jeffw,

The squad has access to every resource Cuellar did lol. It’s insane how deep your head is in the sand

Ensign_Crab,

The squad has access to every resource Cuellar did lol

Pelosi and Clyburn are stumping for Bowman?

jeffw,

No because Pelosi isn’t in the same position any more. That’s why Jeffries does that now

Ensign_Crab,

So you should have no problem finding an example of Jeffries campaigning for Bowman like Pelosi campaigned for Cuellar.

Not a reluctant endosement. Campaigning. In person.

Because when he was asked if he would campaign with Bowman like Pelosi did with corrupt anti choice party darling Cuellar, he gave a noncommittal “he and I haven’t had that conversation.”

jeffw,

Me? Find evidence? That’s cute… sharing evidence lol

Ensign_Crab,

Even when I provide links, you dismiss like you always intended to.

xmunk,

It’s up to us voters to act - but receiving AIPAC money is absolutely a red flag for me.

retrospectology,
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Yup, I simply will not vote for a Dem who takes AIPAC/Jstreet money or if it’s found they’re taking money from AIPAC subsidiary groups. Primary, general, doesn’t matter it’s a hard pass and I’ll leave a blank ballot if I have to.

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