Ensign_Crab

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Ensign_Crab,

Go on. Try.

Ensign_Crab,

And cold fried chicken.

Anyway, Bacon, eggs, hashbrowns, biscuits, OJ.

Ensign_Crab,

The more of them get infected, the greater a reservoir of infected exists in which the virus can mutate into something that can spread more easily.

Ensign_Crab,

Yes, republicans complain when they get everything they want.

Ensign_Crab,

They don’t want to compromise they want to rule.

We should stop compromising with them, then. When compromise is only ever in one direction, it’s called capitulation.

Ensign_Crab,

Unless you want to move to the right, yes.

Ensign_Crab,

And as a result, only the wealthy should be able to afford it?

Ensign_Crab,

Yes, Democrats know this and are taking the opportunity to move to the right.

Ensign_Crab,

With no aspirations toward better than “okay”.

Ensign_Crab,

So I would anecdotally say this election is outside the norm.

I worry that it’s the new baseline.

Ensign_Crab,

Biden has been the most progressive president since Kennedy.

LBJ was more progressive than Biden, and he took office after whom?

Ensign_Crab,

Or would you say… well, this first step is too hard… I’m just gonna lie down and take a nap?

That’s what the party did with the public option and increasing the minimum wage.

Ensign_Crab,

I was referring to the party’s aspirations. They have none beyond “ok.”

Ensign_Crab,

Oh, he’s certainly the most liberal since Kennedy. But he’s not progressive except in the slogans of centrists.

Ensign_Crab,

Sure. If voters showed up at the midterms and gave him a D house, he could have done more. But they didn’t.

If Democrats had used the majorities we gave them during his first two years instead of getting in their own way, this would be a convincing argument.

Ensign_Crab,

That’s why I said Democrats and not Biden.

Ensign_Crab,

Purported positions?

Fuck, tell me what my positions are, wise and ancient omniscient one.

Ensign_Crab,

You pretend to want to stop the killing in gaza.

I do want to stop the genocide you support by refusing to call it a genocide.

All while agitating against the best solutions for it.

The best solution involves Biden ceasing his support for the genocide that you also support by refusing to call it a genocide.

The most hilarious part was that I said pointing out your Youth and experience was not an insult.

You baselessly insulted me by calling me a child. And then lied and said it wasn’t an insult.

Ensign_Crab,

I call it genocide all the time [demeaning pet name omitted].

Then call it a genocide right now. Say that the actions of Netanyahu that Biden supports are a genocide.

Biden could stop his support tomorrow that’s not going to change congress.

Congress didn’t force Biden to sell Netanyahu weapons for genocide. Congress didn’t force him to claim there was no genocide. Congress didn’t force him to go to bat for Netanyahu at the UN for so long.

Oh and go check my post history I call genocide all the time.

I checked. Three whole times in the past month, and two of those were denying that Biden supports Netanyahu’s genocide. We have different metrics for “all the time.”

I said you were behaving like a juvenile / adolescent. Not a child. Which you are even here. If you aren’t actually that young and just behaving like you are. That’s a you problem kiddo.

Condescension is what centrists use as their replacement for defensible positions.

Ensign_Crab,

Where do centrists keep getting this?

People to your left are allowed to be dissatisfied even when you get everything you want.

Ensign_Crab,

They were hamstrung by a filibustering Senate, and two conservative Democrat senators

That’s what I mean by getting in their own way.

Ensign_Crab,

And yet your only suggestion it seems is to yell at people to not vote

I have never done this and will never do this. You are lying about my position because you can’t defend your own.

Ensign_Crab,

The Bernie bros did the same thing in 2016, and again in 2020. And these clowns think they’re pulling some new grassroots movement.

A greater percentage of Sanders supporters voted for Clinton than Clinton supporters voted for Obama. Clinton supporters formed a PAC to get McCain elected.

They’re doing nothing. And by that I mean, they’re doing a LOT more nothing than even they think they are. Their little “protest” is completely meaningless.

Since they can be safely ignored, why aren’t you ignoring them?

Unless their intent is to get trump elected, and for some- this is the case.

Why do centrists pretend that those to their left are all the way to their right?

Ensign_Crab,

Convenient that people to your left are trying to get trump elected simply by disagreeing with you.

Ensign_Crab,

“Biden should stop supporting genocide” is a defensible position. I notice that my interlocutor ceased when challenged to call Netanyahu’s actions the genocide they are.

Can you call it the genocide it is?

Ensign_Crab,

You refuse to call it a genocide. Noted.

Ensign_Crab,

And here comes the victimization.

I’m accurately describing what you’re doing. If you don’t want me to point out that you’re using demeaning pet names, don’t use them.

Anyway, I’m out. I’m not going to argue with a genocide denier.

Ensign_Crab,

They would throw a tantrum if they didn’t get everything they wanted.

They have. In 2008, Clinton supporters literally formed a PAC to try to get McCain elected because they were so upset that a Black man got the nomination.

Ensign_Crab,

Not always. Second worst only has to lose once.

Ensign_Crab,

Or the time before that, when I voted for Clinton to stop trump.

Ensign_Crab,

I wish I believed that. There will always be some new threat. There will always be some dire threat keeping us voting for second worst instead of ever expecting better.

Ensign_Crab,

His pro-genocide cult is fond of saying that there are only two choices when they’re browbeating anyone who is upset with him for any reason.

But no. He’s still second worst. And his recent adoption of Trump’s immigration policies has narrowed the gap.

Ensign_Crab,

I do not. I’m voting for Biden. But as Biden’s pro-genocide cult is so delighted to gloat, a vote for any other option is a vote for Trump. Since all other candidates are functionally Trump, Biden is second worst. And he’s moving to the right on immigration to be more like Trump.

But hey, go ahead and make assumptions based on things you prefer to think instead of what I’ve actually written.

the most progressive candidate since FDR

This is horseshit. No one buys it.

Ensign_Crab,

There is only one true god, I do not worship false idols.

Right. Which is why you’re so mad at the blasphemy of a thumbnail picture.

Ensign_Crab,

Because you’re griping about a thumbnail.

Ensign_Crab,

Griping about a thumbnail makes you believe that I think Biden is god?

I’ve seen young earth creationists write off more severe blasphemy against their god as not worth griping about.

Ensign_Crab,

So this is gonna be the angle. I was wondering.

Ensign_Crab,

I stand by what I said, and it remains in the modlog.

Ensign_Crab,

I’m glad it’s there. Transparency is one of lemmy’s major benefits over the old site.

Ensign_Crab,

One of my major problems with the old site was the stealth deletions.

Ensign_Crab,

So you also recognize there are many bad-faith posters who are trying to induce apathy and division in order to facilitate another Trump presidency?

I recognize that centrists interpret all deviation from neoliberal orthodoxy as such.

Cool, I’m glad we can agree on one thing!

Putting words in my mouth and then announcing we agree.

Ensign_Crab,

Since we can be safely ignored, don’t blame us when your shit candidates lose. We told you they were shit.

Ensign_Crab,

“Essential” means “safe to ignore”?

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so let’s abstain…

This has never and will never be my position. I get that you want perfect unwavering happy silence from your left and only your left, but that’s because your party never disappoints you.

Ensign_Crab,

1 source saying the Dems abandoned a progressive incumbent?

And here you go again, trying to put words in my mouth. They pulled out all the stops for corrupt, anti-labor Coathanger Cuellar. They will NEVER do anything of the sort for a progressive.

I gave you an article. You ignored it. You never intended to do anything else.

Ensign_Crab,

The squad has access to every resource Cuellar did lol

Pelosi and Clyburn are stumping for Bowman?

Ensign_Crab,

So you should have no problem finding an example of Jeffries campaigning for Bowman like Pelosi campaigned for Cuellar.

Not a reluctant endosement. Campaigning. In person.

Because when he was asked if he would campaign with Bowman like Pelosi did with corrupt anti choice party darling Cuellar, he gave a noncommittal “he and I haven’t had that conversation.”

Ensign_Crab,

Even when I provide links, you dismiss like you always intended to.

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