RatBin,

this destroys our digital privacy of correspondence. Despite lip service being paid to encryption, client-side scanning is to be used to undermine previously secure end-to-end encryption in order to turn our smartphones into spies – this destroys secure encryption.

We’ll be moving towards local storage + local hard drives backups, since anything that goes through a server or a chat service seems to be under attack. Also fuck the Irish government.

lemmyreader,

Looking at this as well european-pirateparty.eu/eidas-pirates-dont-suppor… the future of privacy looks bleak.

delirious_owl,
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This is why you codify the right in the constitution.

Its the same reason France just added abortion rights to their constitution. They want to makes sure the right is explicit and will never be under threat like this

possiblylinux127,

I think getting abortion mixed in with privacy issues is a terrible idea

RatBin,

I’ll just say, by protecting privacy we will protect other rights. Privacy means the right to hold safe and personal communications about various topics. If safe and personal communications are used as a mean to handle abortion and other heath rights, protecting the first equals to protectong the other - * two birds with one stone* -. Our privacy is consistently being attacked from sides. Acting now is ever more important.

possiblylinux127,

I just have some ethical concerns about abortion. I don’t live in a European country so maybe the culture and ethics are a little different. At the end of the day we all have different views but privacy is really important for democracy

BreakDecks,

Whatever ethical concerns you have about abortion, the only way to enforce anti-abortion laws is to strip women of their medical privacy. If you want privacy rights, you need to stand for abortion rights. If you stand against abortion rights, you stand against the right to privacy.

Because at the end of the day, the difference between an elective abortion and a medically necessary abortion are the details discussed between a woman and her doctor. The only way the government gets to draw a line on what is or isn’t allowed is if they get to be an obligate part of that conversation.

BreakDecks,

You should read about what Roe v. Wade was about before you say stuff like this. Medical privacy was foundational to abortion rights in the USA. Codifying it into our constitution would have been a good idea.

www.reproductiverights.org/…/roeprivacy_0.pdf

delirious_owl, (edited )
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Guess you didn’t see all of the mensuration tracking apps that were selling people’s data, and the risks that was for women who are late…

muntedcrocodile,

We have to fight them back every time. They only have to get lucky once.

noodlejetski,

hasn’t some EU entity just ruled that it’s illegal?

edit: yeah tuta.com/blog/chat-control

WhatAmLemmy, (edited )

Niceties like the rule of law and human rights are merely suggestions to oligarchs and surveillance capitalism.

“Remember, terrorists and pedos exist, so we need to abandon any presumption of privacy and monitor everyone’s activity 24/7… For your freedoms!”

the oligarchy, including the wealthiest terrorists and pedos in history

Scolding0513,

all of this

haui_lemmy,

Its so obvious that ireland, one of the perpetrators of the double irish with a dutch sandwich corpo tax evasion scams, is trying to push for surveilance. That way they can crush any dissent against corpo world rule. Fucking numbnuts.

zweieuro,

I really think it’s disgusting to boldly claim this is just to protect children. Then get the proposal denied with very valid reasoning that everyone’s privacy would be compromised.

And then, a few months later, they have the exact same argument again with the same proposal as before… This seems deeply disrespectful of the subject matter

It feels like a someone is trying to steal a cookie from a cookie jar, but when mum said no you just try again the exact same way…

delirious_owl,
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It literally harms children. The EFF has done a good job explaining this

somerandomname,

Have a link?

delirious_owl,
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They have a lot of articles about this but here’s a recent one in the kid’s own words saying why they believe such legislation is harmful to them

eff.org/…/thousands-young-people-told-us-why-kids…

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