So the same as a butcher, or were you disillusioned to them meeting the same fate regardless
However for a cull, slitting throats would take far too long. It’s not like we need them to be halal. For cows you would likely use poison feed (asphyxiation isn’t practical due to size) and then incinerate the bodies
So you’re against it on the basis that it’s unpleasant.
That’s not a logical position that’s just an emotional one. Just because you don’t like the answer doesn’t mean that it isn’t the correct answer. Also I don’t think they need our help, they’re perfectly capable of culling the animals on their own, since they already do, The cows are food stock after all.
I did some googling before I commented. It doesn’t have a significant caloric advantage. Triple tofu, but far less than nuts, and only a bit better than beans.
1 cup of beans can have a shit ton of salt increasing heart issues. Just be careful of how everything is prepared. No one source of food is a way to make a complete diet. For instance that 1 cup of beans can have more salt than 2 large fries from McDonald’s.
You could also put salt on beef as well, if people prepare food inappropriately that isn’t an indictment of the food itself, just the preparation of said food.
Never said it was an argument. Many people buy canned beans because they don’t want to spend hours rehydrating and cooking them. (This time can be cut down using a pressure cooker and a few other methods) That doesn’t change the fact that canned beans come with the salt and carbs.
Also since you are comparing to beef, beef has more than twice the protein per serving as common black beans. (Calories will be much higher in beef as well due to fat content). Which is why I said what I said originally, watch what you consume and how it prepared. A higher carb diet is what made America overweight to begin with, thankfully neither of these options have sugar in their raw forms
Surely it only contains what was put into it though. If the cow eats food then it must have metabolized that food. Then you eat the cow.
So basically cows are an inefficient way to turn grass into calories. But since there are other plant foods we can actually eat that isn’t much of an argument.
because meat is mostly fat and protein and is thus calorically dense and filling, and has a bunch of nutrients that are really hard to come by in plants (eg cobalamin)
if you exclude meat (as well as eggs and dairy) from your diet, you’ll absolutely need to take supplements to cover those nutrients… and they’re usually made from animal byproducts anyway
like, humans are omnivores. you’re supposed to eat plants and meat alike. cutting meat out might be a good choice morally (after all, what’s the point of eating at all if it brings you mental anguish?) but it’s not like you’re physiologically a different kind after that
upd. not gonna spam replies but i wasn’t talking about whether or not calorie density is good nowadays, i was just talking about why humans eat meat at all
b12 is readily available as a supplement and is synthesized from bacteria. Given that we already depend on convoluted processing pipelines for our meat, that shouldn’t be a big problem. Most foodstuff is already fortified with it anyway.
With obesity becoming a big problem worldwide, shifting away from caloric dense foods would seem like the thing to do.
There are some dumb responses in this thread. Lots of misplaced vitriol at Texas and farmers.
You want to have people report this stuff? Don’t act like dickheads when they do.
Stuff like this happens from time to time in agriculture. UK has issues with TB in dairy cows which requires them to cull herds. It’s really shitty and unfortunate but this type of thing has happened for millenia.
It’s better that they report it so we can address it and find ways to prevent it happening in the future.
And unless everyone is willing to go 100% vegan tomorrow, we need farmers, livestock, and the like to keep our meat and dairy supply flowing.
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I also want to point out that it doesn’t seem like.they definitively determined it came from the cows but that he was “link” and “exposed” to infected cows.
“Genetic tests don’t suggest that the virus suddenly is spreading more easily or that it is causing more severe illness, Shah said. And current antiviral medications still seem to work, he added.”
So this guy could have gotten it from the same bird the cows got it from as well. A dozen other people were tested and none came back positive.
All other cases we’ve seen have come from bird contact. So there is a reasonable chance this guy got it from an infected bird without realizing it.
Also, none of the cows have died (dunno if that’s a good thing or bad thing).
There is no discussion. This is going to happen again and again and people will suffer and die. Not as much and numerous as the exploited animals, but still too much.
I mean, people suffer and die from getting sick from eating produce, or from wheat or rice. I’m sure other non-animal foods too. Wasn’t there deaths recently from eating cantaloupe… and we get salmonella from wheat products… and rice has that bacteria or something that can make you sick even if you cook it properly… There’s no escaping food making us sick, even if we all went vegan.
Even if you don’t include farm workers urinating and defecating in the fields, or contamination from animal agriculture (a lot of North American farms don’t farm animals along side their crops anymore) A lot of it is naturally on the plants or the grains. There’s bacteria and viruses everywhere. I’m saying eliminating meat from your diet isn’t going to stop us all getting sick. Birds, rodents, and bats and insects all still shit on our produce.
So it would reduce the risk of antibiotic resistant diseases, the risk of the next zoonosis that turns into pandemic, the certainty that climate change will destroy agriculture, the risk of heart diseases and cancer but it will not eliminate the chance of a stomach flue so it is not worth perusing?
It’s only got a 56% fatality rate, some of you will die but the economy must have it’s workers pronto. I expect the COVID playbook will be used again, tell you it’s droplets when it’s airborne, push the vaccine as the solution and shove you back to work.
On the contrary, if another pandemic killed a bunch of people, many of their homes would be bought up by the same hungry corporations that created and perpetuate the housing crisis.
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