Who the fuck do these Vatican people think they are, to lecture others on morality? The previous pope instructed all of Catholosism that they were not to report pedophile priests to the police on pain of excommunication. And this is apparently fine by the current pope.
They are a bunch of idiots with no coherent concept of morality. All morality is based on personal responsibility, but most Christians seem to think they can ask their imaginary friend - rather than the one they have wronged - for forgiveness, and be granted it! It is absolutely absurd. I’m not saying that Christians in general are bad people, I’m just saying we shouldn’t be looking towards Christianity or any of its leaders for moral guidance.
Incidentally - do you know which World War 2 nazis were excommunicated for their crimes by the Catholic church? You’d probably be surprised to know that it was only one. One! And who was it? It was Joseph Goebbels. Among all the heinous crimes commited by the nazis, what was it that Goebbels specifically did that caused the Catholic church to say “enough is enough”? I’ll tell you what he did: He married a divorced protestant. “That’s it,” the Catholic church said, “you no longer get to go to heaven with your fellow nazi war criminals. Killing 13 million people in the Holocaust alone we can live with, but marrying a divorced protestant? No, we can’t have that, that would be, like, totally immoral dude.”
But surely, I hear you say, the Catholic church was against the nazis? No. No, they were not. Hitler’s birthday was celebrated in German Catholic churces all throughout the war. Only in 1960’s did the Catholic church apologize for its silence during the Holocaust, and revert the hitherto established doctrine that all currently living Jews - including children - are personally responsible for killing Jesus. That’s why they didn’t oppose the Holocaust - because the Jews (never mind that they weren’t the only victims) had it coming, since they were all (some-fucking-how) personally responsible for “killing Jesus”.
So, yeah. I’m not going to let these morons lecture me or anyone else on morality.
Who asked Vatican? Don’t they fuck kids? I’m not asking my local child molester what they think about my wife pegging me, let’s stop giving fucktards a platform.
Vatican should shut the fuck up and pay attention to their own bullshit before casting their stone. The glass house they live in is barely held together. How many children at this point now?
It’s important to note that all the times he’s been the “cool pope” he’s prefaced all his statements with the phrase “ex cathedra”, which means he’s speaking as himself, not “the Pope”. Because anything he says as “the Pope” is the official church position.
Gotta hand it to all the folks who warned me that “cool pope” was just paying lip service to progressive ideals and didn’t actually fundamentally change how shitty the actual Catholic church is. They were right all along and I owe them all an apology.
He’s kind of a wimp, then. I’m sure his progressive views are genuine, he has no reason to lie, but I’d think he would know that Canon Law is geared towards papal supremacy, the Cardinals can denounce him all they like, but they can’t kick him out. Sure, he could start a schism, but the world was overdue for one, anyway.
Fuck all the way off trauma has no reward. It took me a long time to grapple with that with my own childhood traumas. I used to think that after going through my own personal Hell, there’d be a Heaven waiting for me, but there wasn’t.
Don’t be like this, it’s so exhausting. Even if you struggle with sarcasm, all you need to do is take half a second to ask yourself if it’s possible it could be a joke. For an obviously flippant comment like this—obvious because it has no other value—you will literally never go wrong interpreting it as a joke. If it is a bit more complex, ask: “Sorry, I just want to confirm, did you mean this sincerely?”
consider that I’ve had to hear this exact phrase in complete earnestness from anyone I’ve ever talked to about my abuse for three and a half decades and that it’s never been anything other than a way for other people to comfort themselves about their involvement and/or lack of involvement
Consider that it is almost certainly a snide comment aimed at the people who would do what you are describing and excuse it with a bullshit phrase like the one in question.
As long as you are thinking strictly in terms of what you have suffered, you are virtually guaranteed to misinterpret the information in front of you.
I am not indifferent to your struggle, but being 50+ and still so easily triggered… that seems miserable. Not saying it’s easy, but when I find myself spontaneously experiencing undesirable emotions, I like to lean into it and try to understand what’s going on.
The past isn’t real, and we get one chance at this. Your story can be what you want. Maybe some pages weren’t great, or maybe the entire book got lost in a house fire - that’s ok.
Let this be a reminder to you that organized religion only accepts social progress when they get dragged to do it under risk of becoming irrelevant. This Pope’s previous winks to the LGBT community were the bare minimum that the Catholic Church has to do in order to not to continue losing followers (and their wallets) in some countries such as Spain and Ireland. The moment a much less mainstream concept, such as gender fluidity, gets brought into the table, it’s free game for them again.
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