Cryophilia

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Cryophilia,

But it does open up another market for energy storage so it will save itself through regular marker forces.

This is the market working properly.

Cryophilia,

No such thing as too many solar panels, only not enough storage.

Cryophilia,

I think he was suggesting that it’s not actually a problem and this whole article was penned by someone with an agenda to paint renewables as bad.

Which is a totally reasonable assumption honestly.

Cryophilia,

Happens all the time. My employer pays a company to come collect our e-waste, which they then sell to a recycler who strips it and sells the recycled metals. One company’s trash is often another one’s treasure. Or better yet, one company’s liability is another company’s asset. Excess electricity is a liability to the electric company so they pay to get rid of it. The amount they’re paying for disposal is less than the potential cost of keeping the liability around (equipment failure in this case).

Cryophilia,

We all float down here

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Going to the UN to propose my Quantum Superposition Solution to Violence in the Middle East.

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Happened to a relative of mine, kind of. Went on a drug and debauchery spree. Not the fun way. Hard drugs, seriously addictive. Stole from the family, we all disowned them. Ended up hitting someone while driving under the influence and killing them. Went to jail, supposedly got sober, but I’m still no-contact.

Zelensky: 'Our partners fear that Russia will lose this war' (kyivindependent.com)

President Volodymyr Zelensky believes that Ukraine’s partners “are afraid of Russia losing the war” and would like Kyiv “to win in such a way that Russia does not lose,” Zelensky said in a meeting with journalists attended by the Kyiv Independent....

Cryophilia,

We should put the rest of him in a box, too

Cryophilia,

There is no magical silent majority of leftists.

Republicans Flock to Trump’s Trial, Risking Control of the House Floor (www.nytimes.com)

"The House was in session at the Capitol on Thursday, but thanks to the latest procession of Republicans reporting for duty in front of a Manhattan criminal courthouse to show support for former President Donald J. Trump at his trial, the party risked ceding its control of the floor,” the New York Times reports....

Cryophilia,

Two trump humpers in a trenchcoat holding a “genocide joe” sign

Cryophilia,

I mean, these idiots don’t understand how the executive branch works either.

Cryophilia,

The Democratic Party’s stance has been to try and absorb disaffected Republican neoliberal voters from the above.

That’s a leftist idea that Leftists just made up and are running with due to their own echo chambers. Dems do like capturing centrists, especially now the GOP has gone off the rails, but the coalition is absolutely led by progressives who push progressive policies as much as they can. The theory is to capture disaffected centrists and win them over with clearly superior Democrat policies and positions. Doesn’t always work, but that’s the play. When the Democratic party allows oil leases or higher border funding, it doesn’t do so skipping with joy. It does so reluctantly as part of a compromise to win other gains.

This is the part where you get out the tin foil hats and claim that despite all evidence to the contrary, Democrats actually secretly want every bad thing ever to happen. Because they’re just that evil.

Cryophilia,

I think Leftists are trying to play up those tensions more than they truly exist, and some of the smarter ones are specifically exploiting the difference in terminology to do so. “Liberals”, in the US, are actually quite left wing (outside of the “anyone right of Lenin is literally Hitler” lemmy bubble). But by associating US liberals with European economic liberals, it muddies the water and allows for a ton of motte-and-bailey style arguments.

Cryophilia,

Fair enough.

Cryophilia,

To be fair, Chinese cops would probably be tankies.

Cryophilia,

Stop prevaricating.

More regulation = less free markets. It’s a spectrum, not a light switch. Dems want more restricted markets. Repubs want more free markets.

Cryophilia,

Punching Nazis into dust since 1941. Commies too.

You’re just salty because our superior ideology beat yours into dust (this applies if you’re an actual communist or just a right wing agitator pretending to be one).

Cryophilia,

Also call out tankies and fash pretending to be tankies.

Hello!

Cryophilia,

It’s a spectrum, not a light switch.

Truth so obvious it should be self evident, and yet here we are

Cryophilia,

It’s actually specifically not true in American politics.

Liberal in America = left wing, favors greater regulation of markets

Cryophilia,

As I said

outside of the “anyone right of Lenin is literally Hitler” lemmy bubble

Bailey: Democrats are right-wing

Motte: Democrats are liberals, and liberals are right wing

Establishing that “liberal” = right wing allows for a motte they can retreat to whenever someone clues in that they’re trying to say Democrats are the opposite of what they actually are

Cryophilia,

You didn’t even read it did you lol

Just like “aha, everything you said actually supports me!” like you think it’s some sort of debate uno reverse card

Cryophilia,

That makes it even more sad you’re simping for a colonialist view

Cryophilia,

Most of em are

It’s an infestation

Cryophilia,

Everything you just said supports my point

Cryophilia,

They’re pointing to a distinction that no one cares about (except the fringe - yes, fringe - Leftists who want to abolish private property) and using that as a platform to imply or outright say false things about American liberals.

Very similar to the above example.

Motte: I, a Leftist, am criticizing the liberal support of private property, that’s all

Bailey: liberals also support fascism/colonialism/laissez-faire capitalism/insert Republican ideology here therefore Democrats support fascism/colonialism/laissez-faire capitalism/insert Republican ideology here

Cryophilia,

Who cares? They’re not related to fascism

Cryophilia,

Meaningless distinction. Whether it’s military or whatever. Whichever state supported group is shooting and beating and arresting protestors in China, they’re tankies.

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Cryophilia,

Cool but that’s not what I was talking about.

Cryophilia,

Not really on a scale comparable to Europe, no.

Cryophilia,

Non sequitur says what?

Cryophilia,

nobody is saying

Gaslight <— you are here

Obstruct

Project

Cryophilia,

Yeah it was more genocidal than colonial

Cryophilia,

Nah, American Yeehawdists like their freedumb.

Similar but related bastardry.

Cryophilia,

Yes.

Cryophilia,

That’s not colonialism. It didn’t involve any colonies.

Cryophilia,

Yeah, and of the actual colonies America had, they were a tiny size/number compared to European ones. All of India, most of China, all of South America lol

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Cryophilia,

I said,

Not really on a scale comparable to Europe, no.

And I’m the one who said the US was genocidal, not you. Don’t steal my woke-points, win your own fair and square.

Cryophilia,

So like you can’t read?

“Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”. Doesn’t get more clear than that.

Cryophilia,

I’m a progressive, not that the distinction matters to you. You see everyone right of Lenin as a conservative.

Cryophilia,

Being anti-leftist =/= being reactionary

I understand we define them differently, but do you fundamentally disagree with the spectrum of “Leftist (revolutionary) – Progressive – Conservative – Reactionary” ?

Cryophilia,

Gaslight <— still here

Obstruct

Project

Cryophilia,

How would you distinguish between Manchin Democrats, McCain Republicans, and MAGAs? I would call the former two “conservative” and the latter “reactionary”, but if you consider all of them to be reactionary, what labels would you use to differentiate them?

Cryophilia,

Ok that makes sense. So Elizabeth Warren vs Joe Biden vs Joe Manchin? Any differences there?

Cryophilia,

Is there anyone who is neither a leftist nor a reactionary? Or do you think everyone has to be either for worker ownership (leftist) or against it (reactionary)?

Cryophilia,

Got it. I still reject your central premise of hard labels regardless of real-world context, but everything you’re saying makes sense and is internally consistent within that premise.

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