Israel actually does care about getting aid into the country
Is this why there was the flour massacre and many others around that time, and why the WCK aid workers were killed? Oh yeah and why they said they were stopping all food and water? And why there is much less aid coming in than there was before the war even started, when the need was much lower?
You are free to explain why someone is denying genocide. You are not free to make that accusation because you do not know the reasoning behind their statements. People have the right to disagree that something is happening and be wrong.
So all the people (including YourPrivatHater) who accuse others of being antisemitic are also breaking this rule, aren’t they?
They do not know the reasoning behind the statement that prompted the accusation and it is very uncivil to say that. How can that be different?
If we only count instances like these we see from Israel, where an innocent person is literally used as a shield and not just sat at home or something, how many cases of Hamas using human shields actually are there?
It means something, clearly. This is only meaningless if enough people in the US are pragmatic and sensible and will vote for people they dislike to keep out a monster… Let me just have a check what happened in 2016 OH GOD OH FUCK WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE
Trump wants to “get rid” of the Education Department, make it easier to fire civil servants (the section F stuff), at minimum become more hostile to NATO and at worst leave, cut taxes for rich people, relax any environmental policies, allow states to take away the right to abortion, and even in Biden’s shittiest area, Gaza, Trump seems to think the issue is that they weren’t quick enough with the killing and had bad PR. Immigration, Biden has some shitty policies but Trump wants a Muslim ban again.
Definitely a lot of the things people claim Trump will do are more theoretical than not. But also Trump was actually president so it’s not all theoretical, it will probably be a lot like last time. i.e. totally shit.
But people aren’t always pragmatic so I think convincing someone to vote for you is a much better plan. Biden is in a popularly contest with a racist, idiotic convicted felon and is still somehow about tied with him. Hate to always bring up the supporting a genocide thing but I MEAN…
It’s because I don’t understand how you can see that image and read that story and immediately jump to Hamas. Instead of saying “this has to stop” all you did was point the finger at Hamas. It comes across as totally callous
The problem is that Israel actually announced that they were going to cut off food and water to the population, and they have recently destroyed vital infrastructure. So if you come at this without acknowledging that of course people are going to downvote you.
Both are to blame. Hamas more so than Israel.
Both yes. But how is Hamas more to blame than Israel?
I would like to see your source about the pipes, it seems a little unclear from a quick Google. But it seems like the bigger problem is the destruction of the desalination plants by Israel. Even if they were in tact they need fuel to run. I find it difficult to believe that this is truly more on Hamas than it is on Israel.
This video of them using the water pipes comes from here. See the same clip at 4 minutes in. The pipes were from Israeli settlements. The Telegraph just reused the footage and threw in some vague stuff about the EU, without actually saying where the pipes came from.
Unless you have something showing that the pipes were to supply water to Gaza? Rather than to steal it.
Well prior to Oct7 water was there
You should read that article I posted last time. It was already pretty bad. And then as I said Israel blew up the desalination plants. How does this make it more Hamas than Israel?
But all that is irrelevant as first blood was drawn by Hamas. Resulting deaths are a response to that.
History did not start on October 7th. “First blood” lol you must be joking. Ever heard of the Nakba?
If Hamas really cared about civilians…
From this point on you’re just repeating talking points. No need to go into all this when we’re talking about the clear factual reality of why this poor child and many like him have severe malnutrition.
Under pressure from the Biden administration, Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-N.Y.) approved the multibillion-dollar sale despite lingering concerns about the death toll in Gaza....
Who the fuck cares. The democrats did it and it is shit. Literally sending military equipment which will be used to kill children. “But the republicans” is the lamest, most pathetic fucking response to that. Political tribalism has rotted your brain
If this horror continues until January, Gaza is already gone. I don’t even know what the fuck they would do if it stops today. He had the chance to be better and he fucked it up. I actually believed he would be better than this.
Obligatory yes you should still vote for Biden because Trump is obviously worse and undoubtedly the West Bank would be next. Not to mention project 2025. But “horrific” policy is not the best selling point, even when pitted against “even worse” policy. American politics is truly broken.
Sweden is technically a monarchy but a constitutional one. Jordan is actually a traditional monarchy, just weakly pretending to be a constitutional one.
The House voted on Wednesday to block the U.S. from funding the reconstruction of Gaza, whose destruction was financed by the U.S. to a large degree....
Obviously this is cruel and the republicans can go fuck themselves. But also it would be quite hilariously stupid for the US to pay to destroy Gaza and pay to rebuild it.
I would say help rebuild it, but perhaps they should have reconsidered the destroying part. But hey what do I know. Something something important ally in the region, just a little smidge of genocide and apartheid. All good nothing to see here
Oh no no, Israel are monsters whether they accept or not. You can’t kill over 10k children and purposefully try to create a famine and get away without that label.
Gaza needs to be “dehamasafied” a la Berlin 1945
If you think the current conflict hasn’t created more terrorists than it’s killed you are not thinking empathetically. If a nearby state killed your whole family and destroyed your home because some authoritarian regime you never voted for pissed them off and you could do nothing about it, would you really be less likely to want to take up arms against them? Give me a break.
The only solution is peace. The only way to get true peace is to give Palestine a proper state and freedom from occupation. Dismantle illegal settlements. Immediately release “administrative detainees” held without charge (aka hostages). In short, give Palestinians the same respect and rights as everybody else. You cannot bomb this problem out of existence.
Well peace, until Hamas has gathered more strength and attacks Israel again, right?
No, by peace I mean peace. Like the ordinary meaning of the word.
How many months of peace do you think it will be before they’re firing rockets into Israel again?
Maybe if Israel tries not oppressing people? Wild idea I know. Not a defence of their actions, but if you abuse a people for long enough it’s not exactly unexpected is it? My previous comment is full of ideas that would make this much less likely to happen. It could be stopped entirely with diplomacy, although without addressing the serious systemic inequalities it would probably flare up again, yeah.
The only solution is the dehamasification of Gaza.
How do you achieve this? Do you think the current conflict is going to plan in this regard?
Each side wants the complete destruction of the other.
I don’t think this is true. Hamas’ charter supports a two state solution, for example.
We can’t just say “be peaceful” and walk away and know that they will never attack each other again.
No shit. Did you even read what I wrote?
You can’t have perpetual peace in this ongoing conflict man
You get peace by addressing the issues that created the conflict. Is this not obvious? It’s ongoing because of shit like the illegal settlements and the blockade of Gaza. The land was stolen but agreements can be reached to split it, if the sides are willing. Of course they tried with the Oslo Accords and it didn’t go so well (eg the illegal settlements yet again). Calling it a perpetual conflict is giving up. We need a peace agreement which is actually enforced.
“Dehamasification” isn’t bombing and killing all of Hamas, so no I don’t think the current situation is being successful. It’s a long term project that will likely take decades, with an international occupation force overseeing it.
But yeah fair enough. So if this is not working we need an immediate ceasefire. And yeah I agree it will take time.
But this specific conflict does not end until Hamas surrenders. Israel will not stop until that end is met. We can argue all day about the morality of that, but it doesn’t matter, that’s the reality of the facts on the ground at this moment
The morality does matter. Israel is not a force of nature. What they are doing is wrong and we need an international coalition to make them stop. “The reality of the facts on the ground” is that innocent people are dying every day and Israel is making that happen. And Hamas kicked off this particular round of fighting so they also get some of the blame.
Edit, missed this part:
Like post-war Germany, this won’t be some overnight fix. It will take immense resources and effort. Is that going to happen?
It should. I don’t know how this will end but we can’t just allow this to continue. Nobody wants another October 7th and nobody wants another 8 months of livestreamed war crimes in response
Well excuse me if I don’t think we should all bend over and do what Israel wants. Why should being an obstinate cunt about it mean you get your way? Sanction, threaten, UNSC resolutions, and actually enforce it.
We can’t just force Israel to stop their campaign and release all prisoners.
We could fucking try. Can you imagine making this type of argument about the holocaust? Well you know guys, we all hate the genocide but Hitler really wants to keep killing jews so we have to work with him on that.
It’s far more complicated than just “Israel and Hamas bad, they should be peaceful will each other”
Obviously. This straw man is pointless. But when I talk about dismantling illegal settlements, Palestinian statehood and freedom, you just ignore that? Why? There are many practical steps I have suggested and many others that people with actual expertise could suggest.
I don’t care what Israel wants. Like I said, Hitler wanted to keep killing Jews - should we have worked with him? Should we have let him continue? You point out that we bombed them into submission but somehow don’t support this solution with Israel’s unreasonable demands, why?
I don’t think boots on the ground would be necessary if we actually sanctioned Israel, stopped providing arms, made them a pariah. But if it came to it and that was the only way to prevent more bloodshed, then we should do it.
It’s pointless to sit here and say “well they should just give Hamas everything they want” because they will not.
First off. Negotiations don’t work that way. Both sides must make concessions. Of course we shouldn’t give Hamas everything they want.
Second, why do you seem to think it’s ok that we give Israel everything they want? Just because they’re currently winning thanks to US and generally western weapons and backing?
Then we should declare war on Israel is your perspective?
Did you miss this part?
I don’t think boots on the ground would be necessary if we actually sanctioned Israel, stopped providing arms, made them a pariah. But if it came to it and that was the only way to prevent more bloodshed, then we should do it.
Sanction. Boycott. Make demands with actual consequences. Then if none of that works, international peacekeeping forces should stop the genocide immediately.
If you truly think the US will ever declare war on Israel, you’re insane and this conversation can end here. It’s so out of the realm of reality
Yeah that’s why I did not say that.
The only way this specific conflict will end is either complete destruction of Hamas, or their complete surrender. Period.
Wrong. Cease fire. Prisoner exchanges. Happened many times before.
Again WHY do you think everyone should bend over backwards to do what Israel wants “for peace” but not make any concessions for Hamas? Don’t you understand that peace requires both sides to actually agree?
Are you thinking that Hamas is actually going to lay down their arms? Or that if they were destroyed another terror group wouldn’t take their place? Is that realistic?
You ignore everything else so you can pretend you’re being “realistic” and everyone with morals is “living in a fantasy land.” Ronald fucking Reagan suspended weapons delivery to them so let’s not pretend it’s so impossible.
Reagan not only supported UNSC Resolution 487, which condemned the attack, but he also criticized the raid publicly and suspended the delivery of advanced F-16 fighter jets to Israel.
And since you’re just ignoring anything inconvenient to you, I’ll just leave this question here again…
Again WHY do you think everyone should bend over backwards to do what Israel wants “for peace” but not make any concessions for Hamas? Don’t you understand that peace requires both sides to actually agree?
Probably not but I think it’s good to make the case and to give people a chance.
But yeah that seems to be it. Israel gets everything “it’s the only way, I’m just being realistic” and Hamas surrenders entirely and gets nothing because… that is “realistic” apparently? This will make Palestinians stop fighting for their freedom, somehow? Bizarre logic.
Juul was always a scapegoat. They are nothing other vapes aren’t; they were just popular at the wrong time and took the brunt of America’s ridiculous attitude to vaping
I feel like a lot of this is insinuation, like “young-looking” models - rather than marketing with old people? Like literally almost all marketing. Look at this:
that featured young-looking models wearing belly-exposing crop tops, ripped jeans and jean jackets with a bright color scheme.
What exactly is bad about this unless we assume these models were underage? Which they almost certainly weren’t
And you’re not interested in whether they actually did anything, not even enough to respond to my point. I’m not interested in “simping” for them, but I am interested in whether there is any substance to the accusations. That article provided insinuation, not substance.
I really don’t understand this - what would be different if they were? I have no problem with the idea that Juul was irresponsible or whatever in their marketing but it’s weird to me that this all seems to be based on generally eyeballing the marketing and being like “yeah this isn’t for smokers/This is directed at kids” with basically nothing to back it up.
You may have noticed a distinct lack of return2ozma. This is due to their admitting, in a public comment, that their engagement here is in bad faith:...
I think I agree more with the spam angle than the “only bad news” angle. As others have said it’s fine to have a viewpoint and mainly share articles in line with that viewpoint. However doing it many times per day, every day, when the number of posts here is limited anyway, does impact the community.
In any case, the main thing is to be consistent and ideally make whatever the rule is very clear. And I would say this should be turned into an explicit rule or explanation under an existing rule.
Personally I just read what I want to, and if it seems bad faith, downvote and move on.
Throughout its grinding seven-month war against Hamas, Israel has pledged to investigate a series of deadly events in which its military forces are suspected of wrongdoing. The commitment comes in the face of mounting claims — from human rights groups and the International Criminal Court ‘s chief prosecutor — that the...
We still have no answer from them on what happened to Hind. God I wonder why surely the unflinchingly moral and self-investigating IDF wouldn’t lie about or cover up what happened.
Israeli forces bombed an ambulance in Rafah, killing two Palestinian paramedics on a rescue mission, according to the Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS)....
Adding to the other answers… This is kind of just “for show” in that most of the time you only use the relevant terms, I can’t even imagine what type of problem you’d have to be solving to need to write all this out. Really it’s just “here are all of the interactions” and not “oh shit we have to do some particle physics stuff get out the monster equation.”
They add … sometimes to signify that they’re just taking pieces.
It’s really weird how they emphasise this “rape and abuse of women” line when things are looking bad for them. It’s like they see this as the thing that generates the most outrage, and all they have left say in their defense is “Hamas is evil.” So they try to make everyone focus on the emotional response to the horrors on October 7th so it “feels” like this is a fair justification.
They have had this footage for over 7 months. And it just so happens that they sat on it until now, and released it shortly after the ICJ ruling. Hmmmmmmm
They seem to think they can distract everybody with this like they’re jingling keys for a baby
Imagine being stuck between Hamas, who uses your suffering to increase support for their cause, and Israel who is more than happy to kill you anyway. And rather than sympathise with these poor people you take to the internet to defend the murderers in the IDF just because the other side is also bad.
Imagine if you were close enough to your humanity to feel for the people suffering instead of just running transparent PR for the ones killing thousands and thousands of children
I think if you can’t see the implications of this in the current context you are lost. This focus on the horrendous crimes that took place on October 7th is being used to justify a genocide. Of course it was horrendous. But ever since then we have seen a continuous stream of horrendous crimes, and narrowly focusing on the 1,200 victims of October 7th is a game to distract attention from the 35,000 + mainly innocent people who have been brutally killed in the almost 8 months since then and still being killed now.
This story on it’s own is about despicable crimes and there would be nothing to object to. The wider context and specific timing make it more sinister
I’ve never played a soulslike games because they are a bit intimidating to me. Amy recommendations for soulslikes games to start on or for beginners to the genre?
Elden Ring! I think they really refined the formula, made it a bit more user friendly (I started with Dark Souls and it wasn’t easy to know what to do), and is generally fun to play. Also the open world format means you can just go somewhere else if you’re stuck, not just have to bang your head against the same boss over and over. Then you just come back when you’re stronger.
Sekiro is not a bad option too, it’s a bit more like a regular game than the others. You can pause! Imagine.
Red Crescent Refutes State Department, Says Israel Never Reached Out About Hind Rajab’s Death (theintercept.com)
When asked about Hind’s killing, the U.S. said that, according to Israel, the Palestine Red Crescent Society and U.N. have not helped investigate....
UN tells Israel it will suspend aid operations across Gaza without improved safety, UN officials say (apnews.com)
Netanyahu says he won’t agree to a deal that ends the war in Gaza, testing the latest truce proposal (apnews.com)
Israeli army strapped wounded Palestinian to jeep (www.bbc.com)
640 Palestinian children detained in West Bank since October 7 (www.newarab.com)
The Israeli army has arrested and beaten children as young as seven in the West Bank amid its indiscriminate war on Gaza....
Joe Biden gets "worst-ever" polling result in Democratic stronghold (www.newsweek.com)
President Joe Biden’s favorability rating is its lowest ever in New York, according to a Siena College poll this month.
Gaza's broken water system crippling children with sickness (www.bbc.com)
Eight months of war have reduced nine-year-old Yunis Jumaa to skin and bone....
Key Democrats approve major arms sale to Israel, including F-15s (www.washingtonpost.com)
Under pressure from the Biden administration, Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-N.Y.) approved the multibillion-dollar sale despite lingering concerns about the death toll in Gaza....
Biden's Middle East Policy Is Horrific. Trump's Would Be Even Worse (www.commondreams.org)
Jordanian reporter gets one year in prison under draconian new cybercrime law (rsf.org)
House Votes to Block U.S. Funding to Rebuild Gaza (theintercept.com)
The House voted on Wednesday to block the U.S. from funding the reconstruction of Gaza, whose destruction was financed by the U.S. to a large degree....
Biden is on track to beat inflation and lose the presidency (www.vox.com)
Blinken says some of Hamas’ proposed changes to a cease-fire plan in Gaza are workable and some not (apnews.com)
The FDA reverses its ban on Juul e-cigarettes (www.nbcnews.com)
Israeli strike on Gaza school kills more than 30 people. Military claims it was being used by Hamas (www.nbcnewyork.com)
A quick note on the return2ozma ban:
You may have noticed a distinct lack of return2ozma. This is due to their admitting, in a public comment, that their engagement here is in bad faith:...
The Israeli army says it investigates itself. Where do those investigations stand? (apnews.com)
Throughout its grinding seven-month war against Hamas, Israel has pledged to investigate a series of deadly events in which its military forces are suspected of wrongdoing. The commitment comes in the face of mounting claims — from human rights groups and the International Criminal Court ‘s chief prosecutor — that the...
Israeli jets kill two paramedics in Rafah after ‘deliberately’ bombing ambulance (www.middleeasteye.net)
Israeli forces bombed an ambulance in Rafah, killing two Palestinian paramedics on a rescue mission, according to the Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS)....
Math Rule (discuss.tchncs.de)
What even is this?
TNG as NuTrek (lemmy.world)
I couldn’t find a higher resolution image of is this, sorry.
18+ (NSFW) Israel releases film of women soldiers being taken by Hamas on Oct. 7 (www.reuters.com)
The footage shows the young women, all of them stunned and some bloodied, being bound and bundled into a jeep....
Best Soulslike game for beginners?
I’ve never played a soulslike games because they are a bit intimidating to me. Amy recommendations for soulslikes games to start on or for beginners to the genre?