especially how many white people don’t see Jews as white, but most non-white people don’t see Jews as non-white.
There are people who are Jewish and non-white though - Ethiopian jews for example.
Which seems to negate the (Zionist-created) argument that there is such a thing as a Jewish ethnicity in the first place, as opposed to Judaism simply being a multi-ethnic faith like Christianity or Islam.
Clearly though plenty of people who are Jewish are also white. And clearly there is a history of denying them this Whiteness once their faith is “discovered” by those they know. Same as Irish or, to a lesser extent, Italians and Slavs. Which is wrong - as is the concept of race/ethnicity/“Whiteness” in the first place
But there’s a difference between saying most Icelanders are white and saying whiteness is a necessary condition to being Icelandic.
Either ethnicity/race is a necessary component of belonging to a group, or it isn’t. And if it isn’t, then idk how one can claim that such a group is an ethnicity.
So long as human beings who are black, Arab, Asian, etc can be Jewish, then idk how we can say that Jews are an ethnicity
the Jews who are white are often not considered to be white because they are Jewish. It is the othering of Jews we’re talking about.
Yeah I agree. But those people would be white regardless of if they were Jewish. Whiteness as a social construct is determined by skin color or national origin or both. Religion doesn’t have anything to do with it, although clearly through history it has - which catholics have also dealt with to some extent, especially in the WASP areas of the southern US.
Yeah we’re saying the same thing. I recognize that there is a long history of denying Whiteness to people who have white skin. As I said, Irish, Italian, Slavic, and other catholic/orthodox peoples have been denied Whiteness at various points in history, in the US and elsewhere, in addition to people who are Jewish or Roma.
My point though is clearly the typical Irish person is white even if they are not seen as “White.” The typical Bosniak is white, even if they are not seen as “White.” And yes, clearly the typical Jewish person is white, even if they have not historically been seen as “White.” But that’s because really only White Anglo-Saxon Protestants are reliably considered to be White in the United States - which is a 3-part conjunctive test, of which people who are Jewish only satisfy, at most, the first two parts.
The point is that Whiteness doesn’t even objectively exist, and is a socially constructed tool used to maintain the historical/current superstructure of Anglo Bourgeois hegemony in the West. So we should reject the classification of anyone as White rather than merely try to expand its definition to include historically oppressed peoples with white skin
Nevertheless, my point originally was that you don’t need white skin to be Jewish. And because there are Ethiopian and Polish and Arab jews, it seems difficult to believe that there could be a Jewish ethnicity like the Zionists claim. And it seems that claiming that Jews are a distinct ethnic group is itself highly othering - and that othering is the intentional goal not only of White supremacist bigots, but also, for different reasons, is the goal of Zionist ethnostates such as Israel
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The United States is committing genocide against the Palestinian people in the same way that you would be committing murder if you hired a hitman to kill someone
We are knowingly providing Israel with the funds and arms to commit genocide. Therefore, we are committing genocide. Therefore, Biden is committing genocide.
Trump is worse. But Biden is the worst president since Nixon, and possibly since the Native American Genocides successfully ended.
He is a monster. No matter how much student debt he forgives or how many roads he claims to build
Biden believes, sincerely believes, that Israel is allowed to defend itself.
You have no reason to believe that because you do not know Biden, nor do you have the ability to see into his mind.
The power of AIPAC and the usefulness of having a middle eastern port to place our aircraft carriers in range of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Turkey is a more compelling reason than any argument regarding Biden on a personality level
Agreed. Though there is the argument that neoliberalism leads to Trump/fascism. So a vote for Dems/Neoliberals/Biden is just prolonging the inevitable - which, even if true, is still worth prolonging
I might end up voting third party
Unless you live in a swing state, then you might as well - there’s really no reason for voters in California or Oklahoma, for instance, to vote blue/red. And 2000 and 2016 demonstrate that popular vote victories have extremely limited moral/political significance.
Politicians lie more than any other profession, and they do it to shape public perception and achieve their political goals, not to express their deeply held personal beliefs.
There is no reason to think Biden is being truthful here, especially in the face of overwhelmingly evidence of Israel’s genocide. It’s his ineffective attempt to save face as he engages in genocide denial and serves as an accomplice to genocide
the origin of one of the international courts in The Hague, specifically the one that prosecutes individuals, the International Criminal Court, comes from the Nuremberg Trials.
The ICC was created in 2002, just FYI. So long after the Nuremberg Trials. And the ICJ predates Nuremberg via its predecessor entities.
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Why should we believe that a more equitable voting system would solve this issue? Or any similar issues?
To be sure, ranked choice voting would result in some improvements to the United States, and should be supported on that basis. But it would do nothing to modify the current structure wherein oligarchs rule the United States with impunity. It’s just that this would empower the neoliberal Democratic oligarchs rather than the fascist Republican oligarchs. Which is harm reduction and is therefore preferable, but is not a meaningful solution - especially to something as entrenched as Zionism
And, again, RCV and campaign finance reform would certainly be an improvement.
But the root issue would remain untouched. And eventually, the ruling class would find ways to grossly manipulate that system to their own ends as well - or would gradually chip away at it through the judiciary that they control
These proposals should be adopted nevertheless. But we should be clear-eyed about what they will and will not accomplish
Their governor is a Social Democrat and is popular
Trump is not winning Minnesota
Although MN does also have a sizable Muslim immigrant population, hence Ilhan Omar’s election. Which means that perhaps Biden should pivot hard on Gaza if he wants to firmly win there or Michigan
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Muslims need to sack up and realize there’s a lot of Muslims out there that are creepy. It’s up to you as a stand up Muslim to call these creepy Muslims out when they act up. Normal people don’t owe you anything, you stand up for them because it’s the right thing to do, and not because you want acceptance.
Which means sanctions would motivate the voters to elect a new government that opposes genocide. Which is the result we want.
Therefore, sanctions are justified because they would stop Israel’s genocide of Gaza by forcing Israeli voters to face the consequence of voting for genocidal fascists
No, it’s because of the truth that continued support of genocide will cause Biden to lose Michigan and other states as well. Which means Trump wins.
To prevent that, Biden needs to change policy immediately
If people are mad at a government then they will not vote to re-elect that government. Which is how democracy is supposed to work. Not that it matters, because our democracy is not long for this world anyway
Genocide is a crime. Crimes have elements. Tell me how Iraq meets all of those elements
Its why Maos great leap forward isn’t genocide. Did millions of people die? Yes. Did the CCP intend for those people to die? No. As opposed to the holocaust wherein the deaths of 9 million people were the clear intent.
Here, Netanyahu wants to exterminate the gazans and is doing so. Which makes it genocide
Mens rea/mental intent is a necessary and critical element of all criminal law. It’s the distinguishing factor between murder and manslaughter. Or between genocide and neoconservative “nation building”. It isn’t semantics
“According to the IHRA, that definition also encompasses the “targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity”.
The group also includes certain examples in its definition to illustrate anti-Semitism. Saying, for instance, that “the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor” would be deemed anti-Semitic under its terms. The definition also bars any comparison between “contemporary Israeli policy” and “that of the Nazis”.”
It is determined when the elements of a crime are satisfied.
A murderer has committed murder even if they are never arrested by law enforcement. Shoplifting has still occurred even if the thief is never prosecuted. Israel is committing genocide even if the ICC and ICJ (which are overwhelmingly funded by the United States and the West) never obtain a conviction.
The antisemitism bill was passed with veto proof majorities.
The anti-BDS laws are currently in effect in many states, and have been for years
Tik Tok is only able to blast anti-Israeli content onto the screens of Americans because it is owned by China. This is because China wants to destroy western international institutions such as the ICC ICJ UN etc. They plan to do this, in part, by eroding all of our moral credibility by pointing out that we have no interest in stopping genocide when it is perpetrated by our (white, settler colonialist) allies. This is designed to contribute to their longterm plan of destroying the Bretton Woods system and the western rules based world order that was created after WWII. Which is also the goal of BRICS, which is to replace the dollar as the world’s currency.
Highlighting Israel’s war crimes, and the West’s support of such, is one of the many steps to achieve those longterm goals - and tiktok helps them achieve that result.
If Biden’s support of genocide makes him unacceptable, then people will not vote for him. They will not vote for trump either. Which means they will either vote 3rd party, vote uncommitted, or not vote at all.
All of which certainly increases the likelihood that Trump wins. Which is Netanyahu’s goal.
Biden should change US policy on Israel to mitigate these losses. Otherwise he will lose Michigan, and likely the election.
The point is that, for many people, Never Again actually meant Never Again. Funding a genocide is a nonstarter for many who were taught that the Holocaust must never again occur
Bush didn’t do this. War crimes may have been committed at Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib relating to torture and unlawful treatment of prisoners. And murder certainly occurred via Blackwater’s massacres. But no targeted extermination of Iraqis as a group occurred.
During the Iraq War under the George W. Bush administration, there were significant allegations and documented instances of war crimes, particularly concerning the treatment of prisoners and the use of torture. However, the term “genocide” is specific and typically refers to acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group. There is no consensus or legal finding that genocide occurred during the Iraq War under these definitions.
Regarding war crimes:
Treatment of Prisoners and Torture The most notorious example was the abuse and torture of detainees at Abu Ghraib prison, which came to light in 2004. Photographs showing U.S. military personnel abusing and humiliating Iraqi prisoners sparked global outrage. Investigations revealed that the abuses included physical and sexual abuse, torture, rape, sodomy, and murder. These acts were violations of the Geneva Conventions, which protect detainees from inhumane treatment.
Legal Consequences: Some soldiers involved in the Abu Ghraib scandal were court-martialed, convicted, and sentenced to varying terms. However, higher-ranking officials and policymakers were largely not held accountable, leading to widespread criticism and allegations of impunity.
The broader context of the Iraq War includes other allegations of war crimes, such as the use of disproportionate force and illegal weapons.
However, genocide has a precise definition.
The crime of genocide is defined under international law by specific elements that must be present for an act to be legally recognized as genocide. These elements are outlined primarily in the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (1948) and are further refined in the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (1998). Here are the critical elements:
Intent to Destroy: The perpetrator must have intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group, as such. This is known as the “special intent” or “dolus specialis”.
Protected Groups: The targeted group must be identifiable and protected under the Convention, specifically as a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group.
Prohibited Acts: The Convention specifies the following acts, when committed with intent to destroy a protected group:
Killing members of the group.
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group.
Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the group’s physical destruction.
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group.
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
The Rome Statute also includes the forcible transfer of a group as an act of genocide when it is intended to destroy the group’s identity.
These elements combine to form the legal framework that courts and international bodies use to determine whether acts constitute genocide, focusing heavily on the perpetrator’s intent alongside the nature of the acts committed.
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