Even in their heyday I cringed a little. I can’t really describe why, but I never liked them much. Meanwhile my friends LOOOOOOVED these guys. This was at a time where Korn, Mudvayne, AFI, Tupac, Biggie, Wutang, etc., were all in my regular rotation. By all accounts this heavy rock and rap fusion should have resonated with me, but it kind of had the opposite effect. 311 did it earlier and better IMO.