OldWoodFrame,

I fully believe they are capable of making Joe Biden a one-term president and electing Donald Trump instead. But if their goals are to make the presidency less pro-Israel I guess I would say that plan of action is actually stupider than re-electing Biden.

Kolrami,

Capable? Polling is a catastrophe for Democrats. 45 has a high probability of returning to the White House.

OldWoodFrame,

Polling in Michigan is essentially 50/50. Polls have Trump up by within the margin of error, with an impossible 10-20% of people undecided or voting third party.

Meanwhile there is no likely voter screen on current polls, and when the NYT did a likely voter screen nationally it helped Biden (Trump historically overperforms among the low-propensity voters so that tracks).

And Trump has underperformed his polls in every race so far in the primaries.

And it’s 9 months until the election.

You’d rather be on the winning side of 39-42 but it’s pretty far from catastrophic.

LopensLeftArm,
@LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

How to commit intellectual suicide and political homicide all at once!

trevor,

Skill issue. Biden should simply stop enabling the genocide.

LopensLeftArm,
@LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

Are you voting for Biden in the general election? Yes or no?

return2ozma,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

Please watch the segment and listen to the voters. Then discuss. Here’s the full segment:

youtu.be/Usl4YMR6_68

LopensLeftArm,
@LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

No thanks I’ll pass on that. Also, that reply wasn’t for you, everyone knows you’re either voting for Trump or you’re ineligible to vote because you’re in Russia.

K1nsey6,
@K1nsey6@lemmy.world avatar

At this point Biden is the greater evil.

LopensLeftArm,
@LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

That may be the single stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.

K1nsey6,
@K1nsey6@lemmy.world avatar

Vote for the guy that’s helped facilitate the death of 40k people because the other guy would be worse, sounds more ignorant.

Blue is a cult too

Telorand,

Do you suppose Trump will pull us out of Israel? Do you suppose Trump will protect LGBTQ people? Do you suppose Trump will invest in the economy? Do you suppose Trump will forgive college debt?

If you answered “no” to any of those, they’re not even remotely the same quality of candidate.

Voting strategically ≠ cult. And unless you can produce a viable candidate who’s better than Trump and Biden and could beat both in November, it’s just wishful thinking and fear of getting your hands dirty.

K1nsey6,
@K1nsey6@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not afraid of getting my hands dirty, but anyone voting for Biden has blood on theirs. Trump is garbage exactly like Biden. But in every case genocide is always the greater evil.

LopensLeftArm,
@LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m calling concern troll, you are 100% in the tank for Trump.

Mastengwe,

Oh they absolutely are. They have next to nothing critical to say about Trump, his administration, or his criminal acts. Their account is anti-Biden propaganda only.

Mastengwe,

Take a look at the rest of their comments. Trust me… they’ve said dumber things. They essentially parrot every right-wing talking point.

hglman,

Will he stop promoting genocide?

LopensLeftArm,
@LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

The question is a yes or a no, very simple. No further information is needed. Are you voting for Biden in the general election?

hglman,

Are you supporting genocide?

LopensLeftArm,
@LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

Like I said, you don’t need any further information to answer the question. It’s very simple, yes or no, are you voting for Biden in the general election?

hglman,

Its a simple yes no question, do you support the continued genocide of.the Palestinian people?

Son_of_dad,

If every candidate supports Israel, doesn’t this make it a non issue?

hglman,

I guess extra-electorial action is required.

Son_of_dad,

Ah ok, so you live in a fantasy world

LopensLeftArm,
@LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

I asked you first, and your inability to answer speaks volumes. You’re a Trump shill.

trevor,

This person is a pro-genocide NPC and this is where their dialogue tree starts looping.

LopensLeftArm,
@LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

Still can’t answer, eh? Could it be because you, too, are here propping up Trump?

Son_of_dad,

Lol unlike Trump, Netanyahu’s buddy, who moved the embassy to Israel. Punish Biden, by helping Trump win, so that Trump can help Netanyahu demolish Palestine. Great plan.

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