Trump plots capture of DoJ in renewed assault on US justice system

Ex-president determined to destroy independence of justice department if he regains control of White House

Donald Trump is planning an assault on the American justice system should he win re-election to the White House, in which he would seek to destroy the independence of the justice department and turn it into an attack machine for his Make American great again (Maga) movement.

At the heart of his plans is the desire to impose his will on the individual prosecutorial decisions taken by the Department of Justice. The move, if successful, would end half a century of accepted practice that prevents presidents from politically interfering with specific cases.

It would allow Trump in his second term to eradicate the federal prosecutions currently being pursued against him as well as against insurrectionists who stormed the US Capitol on 6 January 2021 whom he has championed as “hostages”. It would also free him to instigate legal investigations as acts of revenge against his perceived political enemies, including Joe Biden and family.

“I will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the United States of America, Joe Biden, and the entire Biden crime family,” Trump said last year.

BrianTheeBiscuiteer,

So the DoJ is Joe Bidens puppet and he’s using it to persecute Trump for checks notes failing to turn over classified documents? Not insurrection or treason? Embezzlement? Russian collusion? Campaign finance violations? If every single indictment is a farce, why not drum up murder charges so he’s guaranteed to serve time?

baronvonj,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

I suspect we’re generally in agreement about all this, but … Trump was, in fact, also indicted in federal court (in DC) over his role in the insurrection. And his recent conviction in NY was related to his campaign finance violations (the payments to Michale Cohen for Stormy Daniels were to benefit his campaign but not reported to the FEC as such, making the alteration of business records the cover-up of a crime).

NoSuchAgency,

Not true at all, just watch the interview he did last night...https://hannity.com/…/theyre-wrong-trump-…

imPastaSyndrome,

Oh so he said a different thing one time and that’s the absolute truth? Lol

NoSuchAgency,

He’s been saying that, the fake news just like to cherry pick everything he says. Sadly, a lot of people just aren’t very bright and they buy into it just like when they rambled on about the Hunter Biden laptop telling people it was Russian disinformation. It’s just government propaganda

stoly,

It’s apparent that inconvenient truths make you feel sad.

imPastaSyndrome,

Oh you mean the laptop that had no chain of custody, and let’s say it’s all true, literally nothing illegal?

NOPper,

Yeah but remember there was a dick…🤔

NoSuchAgency,

Plenty of evidence of illegal activities on the laptop, drugs, prostitution, text and emails implementing him and others in more crimes. They just want you to believe there was nothing but d*ck pics on it

imPastaSyndrome,

0 chain of custody. 0 proof of truth of evidence, or he’d be in court, like he literally is now.

NoSuchAgency,

Lol, what do you think it is that got him into court? If ut wasn’t for the text messages on his laptop and him writing a book about it, he would have never been in court in the first place because they wouldn’t have known he lied on the form

CaptainKickass,

Guilty on all 34 counts you little girl

Ranvier,

Yeah, par for the course for Hannity and anything fox news related, misleading headline and quote, from a misleading non-answer by Trump that’s so all over the place it’s hard to follow. Even the tiny little portion they clipped out, he goes on to say he has “every right” to go after Biden if elected.

Look, when this election is over, based on what they’ve done, I would have every right to go after them, and it’s easy, because it’s Joe Biden and you see all the criminality, all of the money that’s going into the family and him, all of this money from China, from Russia, from Ukraine

And his accusations that Biden is directing his prosecution (especially ridiculous when two of the cases are state cases) are all projection anyways to distract from the fact that he’s already tried to interfere at the justice department many times when he was president.

“Trump ratchets up call for DOJ to investigate Hillary Clinton” politico.com/…/trump-doj-investigate-hillary-clin…

“Trump ups pressure on Barr to probe Bidens as election nears” apnews.com/…/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump…

“Trump breaches boundaries by saying DOJ should be ‘going after’ Democrats” washingtonpost.com/…/1c157c08-c0aa-11e7-97d9-bdab…

“‘Where are all of the arrests?’: Trump demands Barr lock up his foes” politico.com/…/trump-demands-barr-arrest-foes-427…

“Report: Trump wanted to prosecute Comey, Hillary Clinton” apnews.com/…/060ca2399a744b4a9554dbd2ec276a90

Such a short memory Trump has. So yes, it is very true, and he’s already tried to do it many times. I know you’re probably a troll posting misinformation, this comment is for anyone else reading.

NoSuchAgency,

All the news sources you mention are the same ones that said the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation

shitescalates,

Because it was. J

NoSuchAgency,

If it was, it wouldn’t have been entered into evidence in the trial

InternetUser2012,

Got Damn son, you didn’t just have a glass of the fucking Kool Aid, you drank the entire pitcher and asked for more.

NoSuchAgency,

Exactly what someone drinking all the kool-aid would say

InternetUser2012,

bad bot

Ranvier,

Geeze dude, half of the shit in there is out of Trump’s own mouth. The first quote I listed was from the interview you posted! From Sean Hannity! If you’re not just a troll, you really need to take a step back and at least listen to some of the things your own god king is saying.

And yeah I’ll be sure not to vote for Hunter Biden or his laptop for president, thanks.

NoSuchAgency,

Trump said he’s not going to weaponize the justice department to go after his political enemies because what’s going on now has to stop even though he would have every right to do so. I do listen to what says, including the context which is something a lot of people like to leave out I noticed

CaptainKickass,

Jaja hannity 🤡

NoSuchAgency,

Fake news, just more left wing garbage

InternetUser2012,

You a bot or troll?

Woovie,

Yes

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

trollbot4000

NoSuchAgency,

Are you?

InternetUser2012,

bad bot

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

so the stuff Trump himself says is left-wing garbage?

or are we not supposed to listen to what he says, and just fill in our own words, like some sort of political madlib?

NoSuchAgency,

What? That he would appoint a special prosecutor? If Biden is innocent he’s got nothing to worry about

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

so, it’s not fake news?

NoSuchAgency,

That’s not all that was claimed. Most of it is fake news

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

so, it’s not all fake news then? which parts were fake?

NoSuchAgency,

The whole thing except maybe the special council. The president already has the power to pardon if he wants to, so that’s hardly an assault on the Justice system.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

except “maybe” the special council?

do you even know what “fake news” means, or are you just programmed to repeat whatever word salad your tangerine god says?

uberdroog,
@uberdroog@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, we know. Tye plan is to nuke and pave. If he wins, it won’t be as cool as his supporters think.

PunnyName,

The coup marches on. He’s trying to person himself out his crimes, and then establish his dictatorship.

Kyrgizion,

He’s totally going to get away with it, isn’t he?

If he does get elected (god forbid, from a jail cell), I’m taking a long walk off a short pier.

PunnyName,

Samesies

SturgiesYrFase,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

Onto a boat, to immigrate to a slightly more sane country, right?

Right?

iamjackflack,

Why kill yourself where there’s a better solution that helps everyone?

Crozekiel,

Would have to do some swimming, the waters close to the coast are still under US law. You need to get 12 nautical miles to get to international waters and away from this lunacy.

newbeni,

Or we can all band together, buy a used carnival ship, load it up with supplies, make sure it has wifi for everyone to be able to work, then just live out at sea for a while

kitnaht,

I know basically saying this is some Nazi Germany style shit always turns into hyperbole, and isn’t taken seriously. This is the kind of shit that leads to genocides and authoritarian nations

Ghostalmedia,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

This thing specifically remind me of the corruption the USSR / Russia has struggled with for decades.

The corrupt politicians staff the justice system with people who rule in favor of the corrupt politicians and their cronies. If you investigate the people / party that appointed you, you’re out.

The US has never gone full-Russia, but Trump wants to do that. Previously the rich and powerful have simply been able to get a leg up because they were able to outspend the justice dept. Under Trump, the justice team will be on the same team as the people they should be prosecuting.

BrianTheeBiscuiteer,

Hate to give him such credit but he’s shaping up to be even more brilliant than Hitler was. Hitler rode the wave of real economic strife (700% rise in prices) while Trump is riding a wave of ignorance.

disguy_ovahea,

He’s also got his cronies on the state level beefing up the police departments while limiting civilian oversight, similar to Mussolini’s beginnings.

He’s serving up a fascist combo platter.

shitescalates,

We had a good 20 years or so where the internet helped reduce ignorance, but somehow we lost all that ground and more.

Xanthobilly,

Russia and other authoritarian states realized what a boon for disinformation the internet was and wrecked it starting with the 2016 election.

GlendatheGayWitch,

The Jade Helm Scare was before that and I wouldn’t be surprised if there were other efforts before that.

rayyy,

Don’t know if leading the ignorant is brilliant. The dufuses love bullshit.

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