The only reason I ever even tried “Outlook (new)” was because the old Microsoft “Mail” app was trash (the piece of shit wouldn’t even let me send plain text email). I immediately lost interest as soon as I realized there was a bunch of 365 shit bundled into it that I couldn’t disable.
I wish they called it “Outlook Express”, like the old free one. This is confusing.
They want to get rid of regular “Outlook”, but “Outlook (new)” is missing a LOT of features. It’s essentially just a webview that loads the web version, so it doesn’t have features like native add-ins and PST files and likely never will. It doesn’t look like any other Windows apps either. A good web interface, but a pretty bad app. Why even make it an app at that point? Just tell people to access the site.
It’s funny because your new (commercial) outlook and the new (general public) outlook subscribers get from MS is not fully identical.
M$ wanted me to upload my emails.
The infuriating thing are the ‘do you want to switch back to old terms?’ messages. Like are you fucking serious what the fuck even is the point of that what the fuck are you even doing with these ‘new’ apps if you’re going to use the same pop ups in both directions basically.
I think that happens when you launch Teams from Start. But that Teams icon is actually the link to the Old Teams with the New Teams having its own also new but separate icon somewhere else in the Start menu…
Thunderbird has full MFA support for M365 accounts. It has to open the authentication page in a little window and I think has a shorter period to reauthenticate but otherwise works fine
And as an added bonus, trying to open this in “Calendar” would show up a blank screen, that closes again, opening again in “Outlook (new)” on Windows 11.
You’d think Microsoft would get the hang of versioning at this point…
It’s still so weird to me that Microsoft - who has their own, now modern, native UI framework for Windows - barely uses it in any of their own applications, instead more and more relying on Electron Edge WebView2, barely following their own design language. Do they even want people to use Windows?
It’s weird they use webviews given they maintain the desktop port of React Native (microsoft.github.io/react-native-windows/) which feels a lot better than a web view since it actually uses native UI components rather than just embedding a web browser.
It’s gotten to the point where Apple’s newer Windows apps (like Apple Music) look better than Microsoft’s, because Apple are actually building native WinUI apps.
This is the same Microsoft that has consistently delivered a better Office suite (including Outlook) on macOS than Windows for almost 20 years now. It’s like they are afraid of their own technology or something.
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