Actually better than that, I’m also happy with those two pans I got off the Aldi centre isle for 10 bucks. The De Buyer seasons easier but the cheap ones are good enough if you know what you’re doing, only reason I’m not recommending bargain deals is because De Buyer has a known quality while the centre isle does not. Also the handles are quite simple (two loop ones), OTOH that means it fits even small ovens and keeps to itself on the stove, no handle wrangling needed. No good for flipping things, though, and have a kitchen towel at hand to not burn yourself.