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Well, Linux is already on the desktop. I don’t know what the blog mean.

About Wayland, it still need time even if people says it’s ready and blabla, I even had issues with Flatpak+Wayland so… keep on X11 to make sure all works.

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He says it’s based, not that is Unix.

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But on the same links you sent are saying:

A Linux-based system is a modular Unix-like operating system, deriving much of its basic design from principles established in Unix during the 1970s and 1980s.

What difference are between “-based” and “-like”? If the meaning are the same then I’m right, if Unix-based means must be like a fork directly from Unix and not just a copy build from 0, then yeah, you are right. And I think based and like are the same meaning.

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I also found this image: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Unix_timeline.en.svg

Unix timeline: Unix timeline where Linux is also present

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I just asked to ChatGPT and seems the AI can explain this:

“Unix-like” and “Unix-based” are terms used in the realm of operating systems, particularly in relation to the Unix operating system and its derivatives. While they may seem similar, they convey slightly different concepts:

Unix-like:

  • “Unix-like” refers to operating systems that resemble Unix in terms of design, behavior, or functionality, but may not necessarily be directly derived from the original Unix codebase.
  • These operating systems typically adhere to Unix-like principles and may incorporate similar features, commands, and programming interfaces.
  • Examples of Unix-like operating systems include Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and macOS (which is based on a Unix-like kernel called Darwin).

Unix-based:

  • “Unix-based” specifically indicates operating systems that have a direct lineage or heritage tracing back to the original Unix operating system developed at Bell Labs in the 1970s.
  • These operating systems often have their roots in the Unix codebase, either through direct licensing agreements, re-implementations, or forks of the original Unix source code.
  • Examples of Unix-based operating systems include various commercial Unix variants such as Solaris, AIX, and HP-UX, which have historical ties to the original Unix.

In essence, while both terms relate to systems that share similarities with Unix, “Unix-like” suggests a broader category of Unix-inspired operating systems, while “Unix-based” specifically denotes those with a direct lineage or relationship to the original Unix system.

So you are right, and they probably wanted to mean Unix-like. But we could still say based as both has some kind of relationship, and that’s why Linux it’s on Unix timeline from wiki.

Dell is so frustrating

Dell has got to be one of the most frustrating companies that put out a linux laptop. They put out a laptop certified for ubuntu but then never support newer releases. A big part of their hardware is always proprietary drivers like webcam, fingerprint reader etc… Then you update to a new LTS release because lets be serious...

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Exactly, never going to buy any Dell anymore… I’m so pissed with their XPS 13 issues.

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You can track this kind of stuff on Mastodon also, join into a security instance (like infosec.exchange/explore) or start following them from another instance.

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It’s funny because AI often lies, it’s good to create some kind of code that you can fix and adapt, but you always need to see what the AI is generating. Because then happens things like this:

github.com/python-pillow/Pillow/pull/7915#issueco…
AI did some shitty code changes claiming to optimize a function a 54% faster.
“codeflash.ai” creating junk pull requests with AI…

About the spyware, I suppose we all know about this, and even if you install a Linux and use an unGoogled smartphone, your guests devices (your family or friends that come to your home) are running them and scanning your network. Spyware everywhere.

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If you go to the post, on the comments, there is someone that is already telling you to run dnf list xz --installed. So you don’t need to run xz directly.

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If I’m not wrong, Fedora as stable release too will ship Plasma 6 in next month, they’re doing tests now.

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Yeah, I heard Debian users says they will need to wait a full year, and it’s obvious I put 5 instead of a 6, was a typo… But thanks to let me know that Plasma 5 was released 10 years ago.

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Because my first computers were shitty, I started with antix as main system, Ubuntu or others were too laggy for my systems.

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Just crack it github.com/…/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts don’t pay any more money to Microsoft please…

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I have been working on Windows, macOS and Linux. And I never learned more than working with Linux, as I am a programmer, every debugging tool or programming tool (unless for apple) works perfectly and natively, as docker that runs natively without real emulators like WSL that gives you more issues with your contained apps and developments.

About DE, MacOS DE sucks, you can’t even grid Windows… Windows DE is much better but still, their shell sucks, terminals sucks, lack of customization of your windows (I’m using KDE I love it and is the best for programming as I have much more control of each windows like pin above others windows and simple features like those that makes KDE perfectly for work, Plasma 6 even faster, less resources…).

What you said isn’t the truth, is just your own and personal perspective. Other people perspectives: duncanlock.net/…/using-windows-after-15-years-on-…

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MS not being able to run on Linux is a problem with Microsoft, not Linux. Still you can do it paying to crossover, the owners of Wine, they do and offer it, just report them every time Microsoft tries to break the compatibility.

See? Just because it isn’t your perspective doesn’t mean it isn’t true.

That’s just what I tell you and what you are replying to. I know posts of people saying they prefer Linux, and they aren’t into tech or programming, just are used to it already. You got used to Windows because it’s the first OS you get when you buy a new laptop.

Before me using Linux 100%, sometimes I thought some issues I had on Linux was because of Linux, when I switched back to Windows, I realized I don’t only have the same issues but even more to fit the DE or tools, the system is heavier in many aspects. The system update both on Windows and Apple sucks… there are many reasons I dislike Windows and Apple. Now I like the Fedora stability and Arch Linux repo builds and deps. I can play the games I truly like and even much more than what I really want to play, so I see Windows or Mac a stupid option I can really not understand why people use them, and yes, this is 100% my personal own perspective.

Also, iptables rocks.

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Haha, that’s funny but as a real programmer working for a shitty company that forces me to work on a shitty Apple I can tell you I can’t just use tmux, I need web browser/s (Jira, Git site for collaborations with team, for reading documentation), MS teams, Keepass or similar, etc… But if they allowed me, I might try to just use Emacs as an OS itself, then I wouldn’t worry about Apple or Windows.

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No, it isn’t a problem of MS nor of Linux. It a problem for people who’ve to be productive on those solutions and that’s why Linux isn’t a good fit for them.

You can’t expect to waltz in some office and have people tolerate broken documents of some format and/or the subsequent productivity losses - it just takes you making a few slides for your boss while using LibreOffice and once he opens the document you’ve misaligned items, game over. :)

Lol, it’s related, MS breaks the compatibility with Linux on purpose, so why would Linux community care if Microsoft decides to not be able to run on a Linux? Because it’s clearly on purpose, just do your own research, as I did. Linux community can try to adapt to Microsoft document styles, but if you want to work with Microsoft Office tools, don’t expect having support to work with them on Linux… the reason is obvious, that would kill Microsoft, the same they do with the video game monopoly, trying to buy all the companies to keep the monopoly.

No, it doesn’t. nftables is the only sane and sensible thing that was built considering modern networking and scalability concerns not hacked and dragged along for decades.

Whatever, Linux firewall rocks.

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On Linux, you install things from a repository, which is harder to install or execute a malicious binary. Reducing the risk of running binaries from unknown sources from internet, the risks are minimum if you keep your system always up to date, and on Linux is easier than on Windows, a single command to update each and any component on your system.

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You can try with GNU Emacs, looks easy: redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=F6HSf5D6TtA

Aradia,
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I’m an arch Linux user and I like most of the distros, Fedora, Debian, CentOS, RockyOS… I try different distros too, my problem is that I will always return to Arch Linux and a simple i3wm environment… but I like GNOME, KDE and the awesome Wayland. It’s just I like what I am used to and goes faster, and I can use the same tools as always. xdotool for example, the alternative for Wayland is ydotool which is a daemon running as root to emulate a device and I dislike the idea of doing that, root? systemctl daemon? Hmm…

But I could be totally good with fedora, at the end I just want the i3wm environment and the wonderful bash or zsh terminal (like alacritty) to interact with Linux. Best OS than Apple and Windows. Funny how Apple interface sucks so much, they lack from smart UI, Windows 11 forces you to log in, their UI is messed up, good thing is their desktop is smart enough to grid windows, and their terminals sucks, PowerShell has good things, but it’s not the same… c:an\'tfindPaths/ and I don’t really see the good on Object-oriented on terminal and stuff like apple being able to render high quality image on your terminal so you can see on a normal prompt a 8k image on the same terminal app… wtf, and they are even closed and people/companies pays for it.

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Now, gamers will want to play on Linux for the low latency on online games.

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Yeah, that would make sense as opening TCP connections is not really viable for low latency, hahaha.

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The post on your link has no date, I don’t know if this is from January or from December.

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Woah, thanks!

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