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yianiris

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linux no-systemd minimalism

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yianiris,
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I have used labwc (a really close equivalent to openbox) with great excitement with the exception of one thing.

Running a graphic application as a different user within a user's session is impossible. Even if a different seatd session is active for the 2nd user, wlroots refuses to draw anything as a different user than the one initiating the session.

It is a form of containerization for me that just requires x11

@noddy @toastal

Intel Thread Director Virtualization Patches Boost Some Workloads By ~14% (www.phoronix.com)

With this Intel Thread Director Virtualization to ensure the VM can properly manage task placement between P and E cores, the feature ended up yielding around 14% better performance than the status quo. That 14% win was with the 3DMark benchmark running on a Windows VM.

yianiris,
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Both plasma and gnome will get zero clicks from me. They are the two black holes sucking free open source software into their m{ac,s}-win core.

@AnActOfCreation

yianiris,
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DE require tremendous overhead of serv/daemons just to be able to make shortcuts/menu items clickable, I would never use such contraptions on my system.

I use a wm and have no use for polkit, dbus, logind, automount, obfuscated rights elevations and demotions, .... all this crap that unnecessarily must run for the sake of aesthetics and MS-win utility.

If I needed icons on my background I would use just a light filemanager, like pcmanfm, but I don't.

@AnActOfCreation

yianiris,
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I know some who do it as a spare time relaxation exercise, install something new (to them) configure, boot, reconfigure, explore. But they have a steady system they use daily.

@NegativeLookBehind @tourist @chris

yianiris,
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I like how a system instead of specs is described with marketing terminology, "light, simplicity in mind" and this with ubuntu and systemd under the hood.

Alpine is light with simplicity in mind, anything that contains -buntu in its description is like a 1960s bus

@flipflop97

yianiris,
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@ashley ubuntu is, yes, a pseudo distribution with funky installer, fonts, themes, mix of non-free software, appealing to those who just want a cheap system without the will to learn much.

yianiris,
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You mean tearing?
As in video screen tearing?

There is also tar which is a very common archiving system, so tarring=archiving

Stay away from debian/ubuntu if you really want to learn linux. They dictate how you do things so much you will never learn how to do it.

@Squizzy @possiblylinux127

yianiris,
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.. not if you took a blue pill overdose ..

@MonkderZweite @Secret300

yianiris,
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tiny core is for small embeded systems, like car ignitions, modems, little robotics modules/arduinos etc.

@possiblylinux127 @spittingimage

yianiris,
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Did I miss what you are asking or is this it?

cat /etc/mtab 2>&1 | tee /tmp/tab.txt | yad --title="output" --width=154 \
--text="$(cat /tmp/tab.txt)

@linuxPIPEpower

yianiris,
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grep sda /etc/mtab 2>&1 tee /tmp/tab.txt | yad --title="output" \ --width=154 --text="$(cat /tmp/tab.txt)"

@linuxPIPEpower

yianiris,
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labwc is the best wl wm I've tried

@BlanK0 @GravitySpoiled

yianiris,
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If you have used openbox before just do a diff merge of differences between your openbox and labwx/rc.xml

so you get the same setup. They are very compatible. waybox is crap, it is just a base wm for kde-plasma/gnome ..etc.

@BlanK0

yianiris,
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Many of my graphic applications spit out warnings on terminal about dbus not responding, because it never runs, neither do logind, but everything works for me. I don't pay attention!

@haui_lemmy @sabreW4K3

yianiris,
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You are reproducing a myth started from Arch to keep newbs and those with learning disabilities out of the way. The 2nd largest distribution after debian didn't survive this long if this myth had any truth to it.

@haui_lemmy @BaalInvoker

yianiris,
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More mythology, ubuntu is just a layer of fluff over debian. Ubuntu wouldn't exist if it wasn't for debian. Just check your repositories. It is a fake distribution without character, mixing Free and non-free software from anywhere they can find them and promotes installing "foreign" pkgs to the system just to show they provide a wider variety.

@haui_lemmy @AnneBonny

yianiris,
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If you could tell the difference between hate and criticism you wouldn't wonder.

A fan? I wasn't a fan of debian 7, I just thought 8 was garbage and left when 7 could no longer upgrade.

@haui_lemmy

yianiris,
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s6/66 simplifies dependency of running/starting, automatically enables an s6-log for each service/daemon/bundle it is much faster and smaller than systemd (by a factor of 10 maybe), and once it is up and running it is virtually impossible to bring down without its own routine. Servers have run consistenly for a decade with s6, including skarnet.org

@atzanteol @BlanK0

yianiris,
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labwc is amazing too, try it.
The only thing I haven't figured out is how to run a graphic application as one user from another.
In X you simply do

sudo -u user2 firefox
as user1, in wayland you can't, even if a seatd is running for that other user as well.

@Chewy7324 @callyral

yianiris,
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I hope you mean touchpad by touch, it has nothing to do with desktops, it relates xinput libinput synaptics sw common for X and wayland, window managers. If it works it does so before desktop layer is drawn, in some cases it can work on console as well with the right sw.

@fschaupp @iturnedintoanewt

yianiris,
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1 are you using systemd-boot?

2 is your efi mounted as efi or boot?

3 depending on 2, manually unmount efi and see what you have on boot, maybe you have grub.cfg in 2 places.

@Hiro8811 @may_nya

yianiris,
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When I had an /efi mount just as arch said on wiki I didn't have problems. /boot stayed with root system, so it can be booted with efi or mbr.

If you have 2+ disks and one has mbr the other is gpt you can boot from either bootloader.

You should also try limine, less headaches than grub.

@Hiro8811

yianiris,
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To turn os-prober on see /etc/default/grub -> false and install os-prober, then run grub-mkconfig -o ..

@Hiro8811

yianiris,
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The theme itself is defined in grub.cfg, but it may be the case that it is stored in your root partition not in efi, so during bootloading the drive can't be read from.
So if you manually change the location of the theme directory and copy it inside efi it may work, and change the position of in grub.cfg

@Hiro8811

yianiris,
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root must always be mounted if you have a system, either by booting or chroot. If you mount just efi from another system .
On my setup /efi/EFI/grub only has the grub efi binary no config, /boot and therefore /boot/grub is on /root partition

Now if you have the entire /boot in the /efi partition then it would be /efi/boot/grub/grub.cfg?

@Hiro8811

ajayiyer, to linux
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Gentle reminder to everyone that support for ends in about 90 weeks. Many computers can't upgrade to Win 11 so here are your options:

  1. Continue on Win 10 but with higher security risks.
  2. Buy new and expensive hardware that supports Win11.
  3. Try a beginner friendly distro like . It only takes about two months to acclimate.

@nixCraft @linux @windowscentralbot

yianiris,
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I would advise over anything proprietary to begin with.

If you want to really go the w11 way it is not as restrictive as they make it sound, in fact in 90% of the cases it says it can't it can.

8GB of ram and GPT partitioning!

Many w10 were upgraded from w7-8-9 and retained the DOS/mbr and w10 would work with either part.table. Win-setup says it can't auto-upgrade but it can install if you delete the partitions and start with clean disk.

@ajayiyer @nixCraft @linux @windowscentralbot

yianiris,
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.. safest bet is get a 2nd clean ssd replace, install w11 then copy user data into new installation.

@ajayiyer @nixCraft @linux @windowscentralbot

yianiris,
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Some people have spare time to learn a thing or two, some people have spare cash to buy new hw when MS tells them to.

We are not all equal :)
We have a government that enforces and maintains inequality, otherwise equalization would come natural, and with some social organization.

@grum999 @ajayiyer @nixCraft @linux @windowscentralbot

yianiris,
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I was reading what it would take to run a legal copy of w10/11 in a vm since the vm doesn't provide the chip to embed the license (post 5th gen intel and similar amd) and I almost threw up with MS disgusting policies of trying to sell more and more for every use.

If your mb gets fried you have to call up and authorize the transfer of license ...

You can't buy a $50 refurbished with sticker and get a free license for w11 :)

@grum999 @ajayiyer @nixCraft @linux @windowscentralbot

yianiris,
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sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/MSDM

So if you create a windows vm vb/qemu provide a virtual MSDM chip you can modify the value of?

@grum999 @ajayiyer @nixCraft @linux @windowscentralbot

yianiris,
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If it was done online alone 1st it would have been cracked globally, then the machine/hw needs to be identified uniquely. How can this be done if you change disk and reinstall?

The way they do this is a chip intel/amd_x86-64 boards provide called MSDM and a unique key is embeded to it.
You plug a new disk, install, reboot is is already activated.

@grum999 @ajayiyer @nixCraft @linux @windowscentralbot

yianiris,
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Not all MS licenses are the same, some you can reuse 1 time, you just have to call up cus.support if the key was registered in your name.

@grum999 @ajayiyer @nixCraft @linux @windowscentralbot

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