Ugh I hate office365 but holy shit I would not want to support libreoffice.
The FOSS scene really needs an office suite that doesn’t feel like its from last century. People use Microsoft shit not only because its the only choice but because its actually usable for office tasks.
Exactly? The interface is god awful, if you’re running a dark theme then your icons will be unseeable (black on black) unless you enable experimental features. The interface is straight out of the early 2000s.
If I, a computer person, has so many issues with software normie office workers are going to use then they’ll have a hell of a time using it. I’d definitely not wanna be the helpdesk people having to deal with endless calls about why they can’t print their tps reports because they can’t find the print icon.
Libreoffice had some steam when it first forked from OpenOffice but it ran out pretty quickly. Theres not been any meaningful features added and they can’t even keep up with the frontend interface.
Also. It doesn’t seem like the German gov announced any kind of large funding contributions to libreoffice so I have no idea how they plan on encouraging anyone to fix the issues they’ll no doubt have.
As a helpdesk guy, this type of issue happens with microsoft office just as often. People tend to memorise where the thing they use everyday is, and any update that changes where it is or how it functions “breaks” their flow of doing their task. We as technical people tend to simply have the skills to use a search engine to find out where it moved/how to solve our problem, but they dont.
While I havent been using libreoffice that long or as intensively as a government enployee would so I cant comment on if its the best OSS office suit for this situation, Im just happy they are starting the switch away from microsoft and CSS and finally waking up.
Most orgs would do well with basic UIs. As someone who has done help desk, users are fucking stupid more times than not. Microsoft is constantly changing their UI just because they feel like it and we’d get tickets because “Microsoft updated and I can’t find X anymore!”.
Yeah, it’ll take some getting used to for some users at first, but the lack of constant, arbitrary UI updates will help over time.
It looks outdated but that’s what most businesses deal with specifically because of dumb users and because businesses don’t want to pay to keep training users on new UIs or paying for support to educate users and a lot of it is gimmicky, not really providing anything new but just a different way of looking at the same screen.
Exactly? The interface is god awful, if you’re running a dark theme then your icons will be unseeable (black on black) unless you enable experimental features. The interface is straight out of the early 2000s.
Erm. I don’t have any experimental features enabled, and my icons aren’t black on black as far as I can see.
I’ve been using only Libre Office for about the last six years for the daily running of my business and I have no problems. Furthermore, I despise the ribbon interface, give me an interface from the 2000’s any day.
I would argue that MS Office feels like it’s from the last century as well. Even the newest versions of it feel like it was made by people who have never had to use it.
How good is the touch screen support in these two? I’m running a convertible for note taking, and I kinda depend on Gnomes pretty decent gesture support.
I felt like I was going crazy sometimes with how often people in the FOSS community insist that nothing is wrong when large companies are massively profiting off of unpaid labor that is meant to help people, by turning it into part of their closed-source product, so it’s nice to see that well-known figures in the community are starting to wake up to this being a problem.
I think that non-commercial-use clauses are a good way forward for certain projects, and commercial licenses for others. I wish that the upstream contrib requirements had taken off, but clearly Capitalism and the FOSS mindset aren’t compatible, and capitalism is more widespread.
If you let corporations have something for free, they’ll find some way to ruin it.
Thanks for the share.
Obviously Perens is one of the FOSS OG figures and he makes a lot of good points. Lately the RHEL/IBM situation has shown a mere license text file isn’t going to keep megacorps from finding ways to circumvent the ideology and the purpose behind it. They have simply too many resources both in development and in legal departments and too many ways to work around the legalese of its intended purpose .
Also there’s been an increasing trend where products (Elastic etc) start off with FOSS license and as soon as they gain critical mass, they split their product and switch to their own FOSS-light license and gimped “community edition” downloads. Again, all still legally above the board, but at the same time completely ignoring the intended purpose of the license in the first place.
I think what Perens is proposing is too complicated. I understand that “contract” has far more binding legal fire power compared to a “license”, but as he also points out in the article, it complicates things to the point where it’s hard to adopt. The problem is of course far deeper than just licensing and has its roots deep somewhere in late-stage capitalism and deregulation of corporate entities and those are of course not problems that Perens or the free software community can easily solve. Unfortunately.
It’s clear that something new is needed and I appreciate the work he is doing. I’m not sure it’s the right direction to take, but can’t say I have any rabbits I can pull out of my hat either, so I’ll follow this with interest.
NHS England said no company involved in the FDP would be able to access health and care data without the explicit permission of the NHS.
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Earlier this year, one official likened it to using Microsoft Word online. The cloud has access to that Word document, but the user would not expect Microsoft to be looking at that document, they said.
Oh good - administrative controls, rather than actual technical ones, “preventing” misuse/abuse of sensitive data. What could possibly go wrong?
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