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archchan, to privacy in FTC issuing over $5.6 million in refunds from Ring security issues

Remember the NSA director back when all the Snowden stuff happened? Keith Alexander? He joined Amazon’s board of directors in 2020. Not to mention Bezos is a particular fan of the DoD and was on the Pentagon’s advisory board.

Why anyone would trust Amazon is beyond me. And I don’t like feeling so damn watched just for walking down a street with a bunch of Ring cameras. I can’t believe it’s so normalized to constantly watch your neighbors with a corps eyeballs.

possiblylinux127, (edited ) to privacy in FTC issuing over $5.6 million in refunds from Ring security issues

It pisses me off that so many people put cameras on there door bells

It kind of makes me want to go bonkers and have 12-14 visible CTV cameras pointing at the person to dares to come to my door (joking)

mjhelto,

I mean, do it? No reason to announce it here, and no one will care about your plethora of cameras. Why would what someone chooses to add to their property be something that “pisses you off” so much?

possiblylinux127,

Because I do not wish to be recorded

mjhelto,

Then don’t go on their property?

Empricorn, (edited )

Not everyone has the luxury of owning their own home. My apartment neighbor has a doorbell camera pointed directly at my doorway that activates every time I open my door to go to work, get food delivered, etc. Huge privacy violation, but our doors face each other, so I guess that’s legal…

TexMexBazooka,

Don’t go to the door then?

Empricorn,

“Their property (and what it records off their property) is more important than your privacy.”

neurospice,

You’re not alone. This isn’t normal and you’re not crazy for not wanting to be spied on just for making the mistake of going outside and walking past someone’s house.

protist, to privacy in Alcohol Addiction Treatment Firm will be Banned from Disclosing Health Data for Advertising to Settle FTC Charges that It Shared Data Without Consent

Large scale “online therapy” companies are a pox on the therapy profession. All the therapists who work for them are made contractors, they pay poorly, and the turnover is high, so the quality to the consumer is poor. Between companies like Monument and Better Help and private equity buying therapy practices left and right, access to high quality therapy is harder to get than ever.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Just look at SWORD. insurance companies are now trying to have you do physical therapy in your own home via AI.

Scolding0513,

corporations are hilariously dystopian sometimes.

nulluser, to privacy in Alcohol Addiction Treatment Firm will be Banned from Disclosing Health Data for Advertising to Settle FTC Charges that It Shared Data Without Consent

Wait. Am I reading this right? Their punishment for doing something that they weren’t supposed to be doing is just to stop doing it?

lemmyreader,

In addition to the ban on sharing data with third parties for advertising, the proposed order with Monument, which must be approved by a federal court before it can go into effect, also prohibits the company from misrepresenting its data collection and disclosure practices and imposes a $2.5 million civil penalty for violating OARFPA, which will be suspended due to the company’s inability to pay.

They didn’t make enough money with this data selling to pay this fine ? Right.

Transporter_Room_3, (edited )
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

You get a fine you can’t pay? Sorry that’s illegal. Jail or seized assets. If you have no assets, just jail and garnished wages. Good luck paying your fine on 23 cents a week (minus taxes)

This company gets a fine it can’t pay? “okay you don’t have to pay, just pinky swear you won’t do it again, now here’s a bailout go play with the other rich kids (and leave the poors to me cracks knuckles)”

Vendetta9076,
@Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works avatar

They spent it all on cocaine and hookers

Peffse, to privacy in A Look at What ISPs Know About You: Examining the Privacy Practices of Six Major Internet Service Providers - An FTC Staff Report

Maybe I’m just not getting it, but if we’ve mostly transitioned to HTTPS and encrypted DNS… what exactly can the ISP learn other than the address they serve and MAC of your gateway? Is this report for those who use their ISP’s DNS?

baritone_edge,

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  • Peffse,

    I’m going to need a source on both those claims to better understand how they can happen.
    For an ISP to mitm, they’d need to sign and send the website certs themselves, and that’d show up in most browsers as a big red flag.
    As far as Facebook goes, I was sure that’s just javascript and tracking cookies that they’re paying websites to use. No mitm there.

    Outtatime, to privacy in A Look at What ISPs Know About You: Examining the Privacy Practices of Six Major Internet Service Providers - An FTC Staff Report
    @Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Needs to be outlawed. Ridiculous

    MediaSensationalism,
    @MediaSensationalism@covert.nexus avatar

    In 2017, Trump revoked regulations put in place by the Obama administration that would have compelled ISPs to obtain user consent before selling their browsing data.

    Scolding0513,

    Fuck trump

    MigratingtoLemmy, to privacy in A Look at What ISPs Know About You: Examining the Privacy Practices of Six Major Internet Service Providers - An FTC Staff Report

    Straight from the FTC? Very nice

    Rentlar,

    Isn’t it great when the US’ FTC does something other than lick corporate boot?

    pdxfed,

    Almost like presidential appointment powers matter! If only Democrats would have realized that before giving Trump 3 lifelong SCOTUS appointments.

    Sunny, to privacy in A Look at What ISPs Know About You: Examining the Privacy Practices of Six Major Internet Service Providers - An FTC Staff Report

    Observations

    • Many ISPs in Our Study Amass Large Pools of Sensitive Consumer Data.
    • Several ISPs in Our Study Gather and Use Data in Ways Consumers Do Not Expect and Could Cause Them Harm.
    • Although Many ISPs in Our Study Purport to Offer Consumers Choices, These Choices are Often Illusory.
    • Many ISPs in Our Study Can be At Least As Privacy-Intrusive as Large Advertising Platforms.

    Oh how lovely…

    adespoton,

    And this is why you never ever use ISP DNS, run DNS over HTTPS in the browser, and always use encrypted networking.

    And use VPNs appropriate to the activity, when appropriate.

    Oh, and never turn on ISP-supplied WiFi, as that gives them full access to the traffic from every device on your LAN, what physical hardware you own, and even where it is located in your home (and when it leaves and comes back to your home).

    inspxtr,

    never turn on ISP-supplied WiFi

    maybe I’m missing something here, how do you get access to the internet for all devices (mobiles, laptops, …) without wifi then?

    jacksilver,

    You can get your own modem (what plugs into the wall) or your own wifi router (you’d plug this into the isp modem). Your own modem is better, but ISPs can give you grief about “supporting” them.

    inspxtr,

    ah gotcha, you meant ISP-provided devices

    masterofn001, (edited )

    A wireless/ethernet router as access point, a personal proxy server, or pihole, between your devices and theirs. Or, if possible your own modem and router.

    [ISP modem/router]<–LAN–>[personal wifi router]<wifi>[cheap pc proxy @ 192.168.x.x]<wifi>[all your devices]

    Proxy could be ssh(socks5), tor, shadowsocks (not microsocks), dnscrypt, tinyproxy, nekobox, whatever. They’d all have the same internal address from the proxy (if set up that way) and then again one address from the router to their device. (Router and proxy order could be reversed : or just router for some basic device identity privacy - it doesn’t encrypt your data though. An encrypted proxy will. And tor or a VPN will mask your external ip) Some proxies/VPN are more secure than others.

    And,RTFM. A bad configuration can be worse than no configuration.

    Gemini24601, to privacy in A Look at What ISPs Know About You: Examining the Privacy Practices of Six Major Internet Service Providers - An FTC Staff Report
    @Gemini24601@lemmy.world avatar

    All those “hackers” in vpn commercials are in reality your isp.

    taladar,

    Mainly because the VPN companies want to get that same data instead.

    Sunny, to privacy in A Look at What ISPs Know About You: Examining the Privacy Practices of Six Major Internet Service Providers - An FTC Staff Report

    Thanks for sharing! This is highly relevant to my master thesis, appreciate it 🌻

    technomad,

    What is your master thesis on, if you don’t mind me asking?

    Sunny,

    All good! It’s about the use of free VPNs and how they may impact user privacy and security. But I do mention that VPNs is a one of the reasons as to why some people choose to use them in the first place. And this is a good source to have as it shows exactly the reasons as to why people flee to VPNs (be it paid or free).

    Spoiler, in the majority of the cases free vpn’s are not good to use, but there isn’t too many documented articles on the topic, only some. So wanted to contribute on that field :)

    technomad,

    That is really cool, and super interesting! Thanks for sharing!

    MediaSensationalism, (edited ) to privacy in A Look at What ISPs Know About You: Examining the Privacy Practices of Six Major Internet Service Providers - An FTC Staff Report
    @MediaSensationalism@covert.nexus avatar

    This information, although not new, sheds light on the misconception prevalent even amongst industry professionals today that ISPs only retain customer usage data related to IP address assignment.

    taladar,

    However VPNs are exactly the same as ISPs, especially when it comes to actions forced by the government in the jurisdiction they are in.

    Scolding0513,

    you’re doing blanket statements. this highly depends on the provider

    taladar,

    If you think your VPN provider is more immune to legal authorities than your ISP you are deluding yourself.

    Scolding0513,

    if you think that every VPN in the world handles legal situations the same way regardless of jurisdiction then you are a total nonce

    fishos,
    @fishos@lemmy.world avatar

    Which is why good vpns are hosted in countries with extremely high privacy laws. And some can even be bought and used without giving any personal info. And why most vpns are RAM only and literally can’t log any records.

    But you knew this before you spouted off, right?

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