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hesusingthespiritbomb, to politics in Disinformation Is Tearing America Apart

The irony of this being posted on Lemmy.

unreasonabro,

you could have just said “the internet” and the point would still apply

hark, to politics in Disinformation Is Tearing America Apart
@hark@lemmy.world avatar

It’s the disinformation alright, but it’s the disinformation from billionaires dividing us so they can get away with all the wealth while we fight for scraps. The call is coming from inside the house.

Dozzi92,
@Dozzi92@lemmy.world avatar

This is it. I have been chastised for suggesting that many social problems are red herrings to distract us from the one true problem, that it’s us versus them. Until that problem is solved, nothing else can be.

4grams,
@4grams@awful.systems avatar

it drives me nuts, I’ve got formerly lefty friends who drifted right due to disillusionment with their pet issue. one began their drift via the antivax movement, their personal grudge against the medical system has them now embracing every far right conspiracy out there. so yeah, I believe folks find what they seek, and those who are doing the pulling have figured out the exact temperature of smoke to blow up people’s asses.

Daft_ish,

That fact that people are susceptible to conspiracy theorys like flat earth shows us, the proletariat, cannot rely on reason alone.

SexWithDogs,

If you can’t turn someone red, just make them a single issue voter.

Voting blue can hurt sometimes as a gun-owning Texan, but I do what I must. I didn’t always have that mentality.

4grams, (edited )
@4grams@awful.systems avatar

serious question, why does it hurt? I’m not a gun owner but I don’t see much that the left is doing that is actually endangering your rights. I do see a lot of fearmongering from the right but as far as I can tell it’s entirely bloviating. I mean, the bluest of blue areas still have extremely liberal gun laws and what I see being proposed from the left is more or less common sense reforms. Obviously there are outliers but I don’t see that agenda having much success. In fact, I have some very strong gun rights friends who are entirely and proudly progressive.

SexWithDogs, (edited )

I hang out in enough blue spaces to see the cries for renewed bans on particular styles of guns. A lot of the stuff I own in Texas would already be a felony to own in NY and Cali.

There also appears to be a variety of definitions for “common sense” gun laws, and it seems to depend largely on an individual’s locality. Universal background checks is a no-brainer, but I’d like to keep my semi-auto rifle and standard capacity mags.

Besides, everyone knows it’s actually handguns that are responsible for a vast majority of violent crimes involving firearms, which potentially makes them next up on the chopping block once the precedent is set by the first ban of a style of firearm that’s rarely used in violent gun crimes rarely in comparison.

4grams,
@4grams@awful.systems avatar

Thanks for the reply. I kinda get some of the concern with the proposed bans, I do think there has been some misguided attempts. From a non-gun owner’s perspective though, I’ve never really thought they seemed fatal to the hobby, just an annoyance more or less and the sort of thing that with sane legislation would work itself out over time. I mean, I’m a car guy but I’ve made peace with the fact that we won’t see popup headlights ever again…

Same with the handgun thing, but like regulations on other things, over time effectivity will win out and sensibility may be found. Maybe I’m too hopeful though.

Appreciate the response…

turkishdelight, to politics in Disinformation Is Tearing America Apart

My popcorn is ready.

verdantbanana, to politics in Disinformation Is Tearing America Apart
@verdantbanana@lemmy.world avatar

sounds right

the current regime in power here in the US is pushing out propaganda that stretches the truth such as the one proclaiming our economy is the envy of the world at accelerated rates

BrokenGlepnir,

Have you seen the world’s economy at the moment?

go_go_gadget,

I see most other countries with reliable public transportation meaning they were not impacted by inflation costs of vehicles and insurance. I see most other countries with socialized healthcare meaning they were not impacted by inflation costs of health insurance, premiums, co-pays and healthcare in general. I see most other countries have much better protections for renters which makes home ownership less of a necessity and therefore less impacted by inflation there.

Newsflash, people don’t look at the GDP and go “Oh my life is great!”

DAMunzy, to politics in Disinformation Is Tearing America Apart

No it’s not.

/s 😉

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, folks from Time Magazine suddenly deciding misinformation is a problem…

time.com/time-person-of-the-year-2016-donald-trum…

For all of Trump’s public life, tastemakers and intellectuals have dismissed him as a vulgarian and carnival barker, a showman with big flash and little substance. But what those critics never understood was that their disdain gave him strength. For years, he fed off the disrespect and used it to grab more tabloid headlines, to connect to common people. Now he has upended the leadership of both major political parties and effectively shifted the political direction of the international order. He will soon command history’s most lethal military, along with economic levers that can change the lives of billions. And the people he has to thank are those he calls “the forgotten,” millions of American voters who get paid by the hour in shoes that will never touch these carpets—working folk, regular Janes and Joes, the dots in the distance.

And that’s not even touching its hagiographies of various Evangelical ministers from Billy Graham (1954, 1993, 1996, 2007) and Jimmy Swaggart and Jim & Tammy Faye Bakker (both in the glorious year of 1987). An assortment of nine Catholic Bishops scored nine covers (the last in 1966), and of course eight Popes have worn the red frame more thirty-three times. And then there’s the straight-up pandering Jesus-y editions.

Today it’s going to be “Has misinformation gone too far?!” and tomorrow its going to be Inside the Uranium Underworld: Dark Secrets, Dirty Bombs and another excuse to march to war.

Linkerbaan, to politics in Disinformation Is Tearing America Apart
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

The Biden government is straight up denying their support for a Genocide as if they are CCP China.

Only consume government propaganda everyone!

Dkarma,

I think they’re talking about who won the last election and whether covid vaccines are harmful, but ok … Can’t even start to address the Israel lobby until fptp voting and the ec are abolished

Get your priorities and timelines straight.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Denying and facilitating a brutal Genocide is a bit more extreme than saying they’re turning the frogs gay.

I’d say the Genocide thing has priority.

Godwins_Law,

This would matter more if the other party didn’t outright cheer for and support that genocide.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

You commend hypocrisy?

go_go_gadget,

You realize this kind of response just makes people ask if our “democracy” is even worth defending at this point. If discussions about supporting genocide “don’t matter” then it’s already over. We lost.

go_go_gadget,

until fptp voting and the ec are abolished

Biden and establishment democrats will never allow this. I really wish people would stop saying this as if it’s some kind of viable solution. It has no more chance of becoming reality than medicare for all with the current power structures in place. They either need to change or we need a different approach.

gofsckyourself, to politics in Disinformation Is Tearing America Apart

Counterpoint: idiots who never question things they want to hear are tearing America apart.

ZMoney,

It’s really hard to educate 80% of the public.

Snapz,

Especially when a right wing pet protect for about 50 years now has been dismantling public education to churn out soft brained, frightened voters primed to be republicans.

skozzii, to politics in Disinformation Is Tearing America Apart

People have a desire to be correct in their beliefs, and they have found comfort in disinformation instead of having to change or reflect on dated world views.

They aren’t being tricked, they actively seek and embrace the disinformation.

Simon, to politics in Disinformation Is Tearing America Apart

Shouldn’t have made propaganda legal then, fuckers.

ArtVandelay,
@ArtVandelay@lemmy.world avatar

I guess you can’t put the blame on that on one individual person, but if you could it would be Ronald fucking Reagan.

ohlaph, to politics in Disinformation Is Tearing America Apart

By design.

samus12345, to politics in Disinformation Is Tearing America Apart
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar
Asafum, to politics in Disinformation Is Tearing America Apart

A-fuckin-goddamn-men.

Check my comment history, it’s 50/50 extreme self loathing and bitching about propaganda lol

TengoHipo, to politics in Disinformation Is Tearing America Apart

It’s usually feelings over facts. Or I just love when they tell you to Google it. Then you do and prove them wrong and then they tell you that’s the wrong site lol Republicans really made the uneducated loud and annoying.

RGB3x3,

My dad was trying to tell me that the COVID vaccine is dangerous, so he googled it, sent me a blog with the Google link in it, then got upset when I found that the source that blogger used said “those who are able to be vaccinated help those who cannot be vaccinated.” This was all because of my and my wife’s request to get the vaccine to meet our 3 month old.

He didn’t like that I did actual research on his partisan blog to prove him wrong.

knobbysideup, to politics in Disinformation Is Tearing America Apart
@knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works avatar

For it to work, people first need to be uneducated and indoctrinated. That’s the real issue.

WoahWoah,

This is simply not true, and this kind of belief–that misinformation only works on “other people”–is part of the problem.

General_Effort, to politics in Disinformation Is Tearing America Apart

When routine bites hard and ambitions are low

And resentment rides high but emotions won’t grow

And we’re changing our ways, taking different roads

Then disinformation will tear us apart again

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