1990 - 2005 Gaming Build

I found a box of CD-Roms and floppy disks in my mum’s basement and damnit, I want to play them! I could use emulators, DosBox or VMs but it’s never quite the same as having the real thing, so between an eBay mobo and a box of old parts I managed to build my new gaming rig to cover 1990-2005.

Its running a P3 at 1GHz, 512MB of ram, and an ATI Xpert98 with 8MB of memory. As I didn’t want to run an old IDE drive with a million hours on it, I tried an SATA-IDE adapter, it caused some issues during the install but that just felt like the standard Windows experience.

Though unpopular, I went with ME for 2 reasons, the first was Dos support, the second is that I went from W95 to ME as a kid, 98 wouldn’t have felt the same. The install bricked twice with video drivers but I finally got it up and running with the default drivers and an 18" Samsung flat CRT (runs up to 1600x1200 at a nauseating 60hz).

So what were your favorite games from the 90’s and early 2000s?

Lost_My_Mind,

“Its running a P3 at 1GHz, 512MB of ram, and an ATI Xpert98 with 8MB of memory.”

Stop. PLEASE! 15 year old me in the year 2000 can only get SO erect!

kurikai,

Looks good. I also went from win95 to winme. I got myself a p3 running win95 and got a crt too. It’s definitely better on real hardware. Got yourself a ball mouse rather than laser?

Doom, doom2, red alert, Tyrian, warcraft, warcraft2, death rally, settlers 2, caesar 2, age of empires, Indiana Jones and his desktop adventures.

nik282000,
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I have an MS Trackball Optical (that I have been using since 2002). Just can’t go back to a regular push-mouse.

Tyrian is such an awesome game, I must have replayed it a dozen times!

cyberpunk007,

Yesssss death ralley was so good

TheAgeOfSuperboredom,

Nice!

Time for some Tribes or Heroes of Might and Magic.

Tylerdurdon,

Oh the nostalgia from seeing those icons. You should join the Microsoft Network! Crack open ICQ! Get on AOL and see if “you’ve got mail.” Heck, I may still have one of those CDs with 2500 hours on it!

nik282000,
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I am a little tempted to see how ME handles the modern web but it seems like a good way to b0rk my setup.

Tylerdurdon,

Oh don’t worry, ME will bork itself just fine, haha.

nik282000,
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ME is how I learned the work ‘kernel’ and that it can have <unknown error>

cyberpunk007,

So many favorites.

  • Diablo 1 and 2
  • Star craft brood war
  • Red alert
  • Doom, hexen, heretic, quake
  • Doom 3 I think was out around then
  • Dawn of war
  • Guild wars
  • Heroes of might and magic 3
  • Counter strike 1.6, half life, half life 2

And so many more I’m sure I’m forgetting.

nik282000,
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Huh, I wonder if there is a way to play HL2 on this setup without Steam.

KingJalopy,

🏴‍☠️ probably

saltesc,

Hexen to CS 1.6. We must be very similar in age. That’s basically my teens.

Red Alert was my favourite. Dial-up multiplayer with my school friend. Rarely finished a game because someone’s house got a phone call or someone picked up the phone. We both got in trouble when the first phone bills came in. Would spend about $2.50 in local calls each time tuntil the computers linked up. A $60 phone bill was savage back then for families living in government housing and struggling to pay off a base model computer.

sic_semper_tyrannis,

I just got Falcon 3 Gold running in DOSBox the other day

HerrVorragend,
@HerrVorragend@lemmy.world avatar

Oh the memories…

LucasArts Adventures

US Navy Fighters

Unreal

StarCraft

Need For Speed 1 & 2

n3cr0,

Carmageddon and GTA were quite some bangers, and I think they still are. Or Age of Empires 1&2.

Honorable mentions:

  • Dark Project
  • Soul Reaver
  • Blood Omen
  • King’s Quest
  • Ballistics
  • Dethkarz
  • Ken’s Labyrinth
  • The Settlers
czardestructo,
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Carmageddon! I still have the original CD from the late 90s.

KingJalopy,

Myst was my jam back then. Maybe riven, I don’t remember lol. Also Diablo.

MossyFeathers, (edited )

Rollercoaster Tycoon 1 and 2; Need for Speed 2 and 3; SimCity 3k.

Also, check your monitor properties. Afaik most CRT monitors (not TVs; those run at 60hz/50hz depending on region) are meant to run at 75~85hz. If it’s running at 60hz when it’s meant to run at a higher refresh rate, then that might be why it’s nauseating (my crt has a very noticeable flicker at 60hz, but that goes away at 75hz).

Edit: to expand on this for any late-comers: CRTs work by using an electron gun (aka particle accelerator aka a motherfucking PARTICLE CANNON) to fire an electron beam at red, green and blue phosphors. When the electron hits a phosphor, it emits light based on the color hit. This beam sweeps over the phosphors at a speed dictated by the display’s refresh rate and illuminates the phosphors one-by-one until it has illuminated the entire screen. This is why trying to take a picture or video of a CRT requires you to sync your shutter speed with the CRT. If your shutter isn’t synced then the monitor will appear to be strobing or flickering (because it is, just very, very quickly)

These phosphors have a set glow duration, which varies based on the intended display refresh rate. A refresh rate that is too low will cause the phosphors to dim before the electron beam passes over them, while a refresh rate that’s too high can cause ghosting, smearing, etc because the phosphors haven’t had a chance to “cool off”. TVs are designed to run at 60hz/50hz, depending on the region, and so their phosphors have a longer glow duration to eliminate flickering at their designated refresh rate. Computer monitors, on the other hand, were high-quality tubes and were typically geared for +75hz. The result is that if you run them at 60hz then you’ll get flickering because the phosphors have a shorter glow duration than a TV.

Note: this is a place where LCD/LED panels solidly beat CRTs, because they can refresh the image without de-illuminating the panel, avoiding flicker at low refresh rates.

Edit 2: oh! Also, use game consoles with CRT TVs, not computer monitors. This is because old consoles, especially pre-3d consoles, “cheated” on sprites and took advantage of standard CRT TV resolution to blend pixels. The result is that you may actually lose detail if you play them on a CRT computer monitor or modern display. That’s why a lot of older sprite-based games unironically look better if you use a real CRT TV or a decent CRT emulator video filter.

afox,

How much did it cost to download all that RAM?

nik282000,
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I got it on Kazaa ;)

kbotc,

It’s still bonkers to me that Kazaa’s network still technically lives on in Skype, though all the Supernodes are in Azure these days rather than the original P2P setup.

Serinus,

Don’t connect that machine to the internet. (Not that you had plans to.)

NikkiDimes,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d2e8a22b-d9f3-4d62-a09b-3ef1dff84b27.gif

InFerNo,

Quake series are good, but 3 is mainly geared towards multiplayer. Return to castle Wolfenstein is great, uses the quake 3 engine.

Other great games that haven’t been listed… system shock 2, strife, knights and merchants, commander keen, supaplex, Dune 2000

9point6,

ME is a bold choice regardless—those installs always seem to destroy themselves before long in my experience (admittedly from quite a while ago now)

As for games (in no particular order):

  • Command & Conquer (basically all of them up to including RA2)
  • Diablo 2
  • Warcraft 3
  • Dungeon Keeper
  • Theme Hospital
  • Rollercoaster Tycoon (and RCT2)
  • Unreal Tournament 99
  • Fury 3/Terminal Velocity
  • Z
  • Age of Empires 1 & 2
  • Pharaoh & Caesar 3
  • MechWarrior 3
  • Serious Sam
  • Sim City 3000
  • Quake 2 & 3
  • Half Life
  • Deus Ex

I’m definitely forgetting some

Donut,

Great list, pretty much my childhood. I’ll add some more:

  • Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1/2
  • Empire Earth 1/2
  • Civilization II
  • Commandos: Behind Enemy Lines
  • Theme Park (World?)
  • Populous: The Beginning
9point6,

Yes to all of those, though I never actually played empire earth, so that goes on my modern day list

Know_not_Scotty_does,

There is some weird difficulty scaling on EE with faster cpus iirc. I got it on gog last year and its significantly harder than I remembered it being.

9point6,

Ah that’s good to know, might be one for 86box then

mechoman444,

My childhood! Though I was more of a MechWarrior 2 guy.

ThirdWorldOrder,

Fantastic list and love that you put Z on there. Gotta add some classics like Wolfenstein, Doom, Descent, Quake 1, Mechwarrior Mercenaries, Kings Quest… damn guess you could go on and on…

nik282000,
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When I had ME the first time around I do remember there being some stability issues but I never had it totally brick, even with the assload of sus softeware that came from Kazaa and Morpheus.

best_username_ever,

I only used it for 1 week but I remember that it would randomly commit suicide every hour, even without doing anything.

Pacmanlives,

From what I remember hardware support was weird with ME. If you had the right hardware you were golden. Also last release of MSDOS

DarthBueller,

I had an entirely different experience with Windows ME than seemingly everyone else. In my experience windows Me fixed a ton of hardware issues. I preferred it over 98 SE back in the day.

Anticorp,

Sim City games were so cool back then! I hate what they did with them as they progressed.

Sanctus,
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See if you can play some Phantasy Star Blue Burst on that. Also gotta try the original Marathon, you can look up and down!

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