Original Fallout lead Tim Cain loves the new show, but remains baffled by how 'destructive' fans can act toward 'people who are trying to create things'

Cain appreciated the performances and storytelling, but singled out how the show nailed the Fallout “vibe” as its biggest achievement. “I was just looking at all the props,” he said of one scene. “I realized after a few minutes went by that I had not followed the dialogue at all, because I was so engrossed by it visually.”

On a more sour note, Cain took time to address the way fans of the series can behave poorly online, particularly regarding any perceived rivalry between Fallout entries developed by Bethesda (3, 4, and 76), and those from Interplay, Black Isle, and Obsidian (1, 2, and New Vegas). Cain spoke positively of Todd Howard, and said that “Some of the stuff you [series fans] say online is so off.” See also: the debate about whether the show somehow overrode or ignored the events of those non-Bethesda games, which has since been denied by a senior developer at the studio.

Deceptichum,
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I only watched the first episode and skimmed through most of it as it was kinda boring.

Does it get better?

L3mmyW1nks,

What kind of shows are you able to watch when you already need to skim the first episode setting the mood/vibe of the show? TikTok?

Deceptichum,
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Shows that are captivating and offer a glimpse of the long term mystery?

Now the first episode of the Expanse had the same flow; introduce the different character groups, world build, and set events into motion.

It ended with multiple different character arcs in motion - an investigation, political drama, lost in space. Fallout had 3 people set off to start their arc maybe next episode? Vault girl leaves, Brotherhood guy leaves, Ghoul leaves.

The Expanse pulled it off fucking fantastically whereas Fallout just felt flat to me.

dog,

Yeah I’m not feeling great about the show. Sure it’s pretty, but it’s so slow.

Maybe that’s a deliberate choice, but as the first episode is, I give it a 7/10.

Not great, not good, but okay.

Juvyn00b,

Agreed. I think for the way they had to cut it up and introduce so many seemingly “key” characters, it really dragged on for me until about mid way. And I still didn’t have a good handle on the world as a whole at that point. Feeling like I’m missing something the whole time makes me not want to continue.

Kelly,

www.ratingraph.com/…/fallout-ratings-116450/

People like the later episodes more

Deceptichum,
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Can I just say thank you for being the only person to actually answer my question. If that’s the case I might try to power through a few more.

One more question though, it goes from 8.5 to 8.9; is that a big increase?

It sounds like very little but for all I know 99% of shows could be rated from 7-9, where it would be more impactful.

Kelly,

That site visualizes the per-episode reviews from IMDb so its only as good as its dataset.

I find it most useful when choosing between shows, if I know that a series falls of a cliff if the later seasons I might choose something more consistent instead.

My advice would be to search a couple of other series you know and see what their numbers look like. That should give you a benchmark.

Sam_Bass,

You cant please everyone

yamanii,
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Go watch his video on YouTube, he saw the first 2 episodes, not the entire thing.

AMillionNames,

I like the show, the only problem is that it reduces the universe for the purpose of its medium, and factions essentially become people. Otherwise, the show is what I would expect from a Fallout game, a slowly developing main quest where a lot of the experience is in the random encounters and side quests. I’m looking forward to the possibility of them talking about THE courier and their legend, and perhaps even bring out the lore of the random stranger. Worst criticism I have is that its removing a lot of the mystery surrounding Vault-Tec lore by serving it out on a silver platter, it was basically the one mystery that stretched out and was never fully revealed throughout the games, where you actually had to dig into to know more, now being served to any person who watched the show whether they want it or not. It’s sort of like my problem with Starfield, it brings you too close to all the major players in that universe way too quickly, making the world smaller and eliminating mystery, anticipation, and depth before it has had time to ripen.

masterspace,

I hope that image is not one from the show. If so it’s pretty shitty and spoilery.

DarkMetatron,

It is from the show but it was part of every single trailer, not much to spoil in that regard.

Binthinkin,

Those are usually the incel kids. I blame Blizzard for creating them.

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