What games can you not get into because they feel too outdated?

Are there games that you tried but just couldn’t get into because they feel outdated? Games that, in theory, you would enjoy, but don’t because the controls, graphics, writing, or mechanics just don’t feel good anymore. Games that, compared to today, just don’t hold up to your standards.

I recently tried playing Heroes of Might and Magic III, and I realized that a lot of the invisible language used through game design from that era, I do not understand. There are many things that the game didn’t explain, and I assume they were just understood by players. Not only that, but I imagine there was a lot of crossover between video games and board games back then, so maybe that language was used as well. I ended up downloading a manual and putting it on my second screen and I get it and played it, but it just wasn’t for me.

I also dropped Mirror’s Edge, but this time it was because of the graphics. It looks and feels great, but the graphics give me a headache. There is way too much bloom, and for some reason, there are some parts that look like the imaginary lens has been covered in Vaseline. This didn’t bother me before, but my eyes are not used to it anymore.

There are also games like the first two Tony Hawk Pro Skater games that I can’t fully get into because they’re missing mechanics from the later games. The levels and controls feel great, but they don’t feel complete without those mechanics. It keeps me from enjoying the games as much as the others.

Please share yours!

NotJustForMe,

I’m a big Guild Wars 2 fan, though I don’t play that much anymore. Often in the game, Guild Wars 1 references, and stories told by players of how great it was, made me want to try it.

It still fully works, and can be played. But for me, it was a no-go. I could live with the graphics, and the environments were fine. Good music and sounds.

The interface killed it for me. Dozens of windows, shortcuts, clunky ways of doing things, the inventory. I couldn’t take it anymore after a few hours.

It’s not about disliking old interfaces. I basically live on the Linux-shell, and I still play xcom: ufo-defense. But the gw1 one is all over the place, like it hasn’t been planned but just happened by random people dropping into the studio and adding some stuff for the fun of it.

Come to think about it, it isn’t even about old games. I couldn’t play Xenonauts for the same reason. I suppose I just don’t enjoy clunky interfaces…

allcopsarebad,

It bothers me how fucking monumental of an achievement Xenogears could have been, how incredible it still is, and how unbearably painful it is to try and play today.

It’s still one of the most wild sci-fi stories I have ever had the pleasure of experiencing, [and I read a LOT], but even at the time it was a really clunky combat system and the controls can be absolutely maddening.

Lojcs,

Gta 5. Story progression is just awful. You play a mission, it ends and you’re forced to do open world activities instead of continuing the story. Then just when you’re getting into the groove in the open world you get a call to do a story mission and it turns out to be shooting imaginary aliens. The missions are too linear and short. Gunplay is weak. Also the characters feel like they were written for 10 year olds who think swear words are funny.

I’m hoping rdr2 is better

TheBlue22,

Thief.

But I HAVE to try again! I want to write my bachelors about game design of stealth games and not analyzing Thief would be a crime against humanity

verycoolusername,

For me it was Ocarina of Time. Ugly, and very clumsy. And I play tons of retro games. Early 3D stuff can be rough.

ChaoticEntropy,
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There are specific things about OoT that irritate me, but I can generally still get some enjoyment.

otp,

When Witcher 3 was winning all those awards, I wanted to give the original game a go.

Don’t. I imagine it’s nothing like Witcher 3. It aged terribly poorly.

Wizard_Pope,
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I bought a bundle with all the 3 witcher games and tried both 1 and 2. I could jot even get through the tutorial in 1 and could jot beat the first boss of 2. Each game controls completely differently from one another.

Ashtear,

That Kayran fight is one of the most unfortunate things about Witcher 2. It’s far too difficult a fight for a first boss, and almost all of that chapter is a drag to boot. The game is so much better after that point.

Lesrid,

My favorite moment in that game is a serious case of understatement in dialogue prompt. You have an option to help one of two diametrically opposed people and if you choose “Help person A” you draw your sword on person B. If you choose “Help person B” you immediately throat punch person A.

Wizard_Pope,
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Similar to how “push dijkstra aside” leads to Geralt breaking his ankle in a really violent matter.

howrar,

I remember playing the first game and getting stuck on the tutorial because I was mashing the left click button trying to swing my sword only to have Geralt hip thrust at the enemies.

But once you figure out how to swing the sword, the game’s actually pretty fun. One thing I particularly liked is that there’s an investigative storyline where you actually have to go and investigate and figure out the answer with the clues provided, and you can fail. I went into it thinking it would be like most modern games where you only get obviously correct or incorrect dialog options and angered everyone in the process.

otp,

It did have some positive traits, but the gameplay just didn’t do it for me at all.

I did make it through the whole game, so I feel like I can hold that opinion, haha

metaballism,

People didn’t like its mechanics even back when it launched. Personally, it’s still somehow my favorite even tho objectively it’s less fun to play and less polished than the other two. Something about its story and the atmosphere makes it more unique and genuine.

otp,

It does have a great story!

FuryMaker,

Quite a few, but more recently:

Neverwinter Nights. Even the Enhanced Edition.

Diablo.

Other older RPGs just start off too slow, but that isn’t necessarily age related, but by design.

Morrowind, but only because I’ve lost where I was up to in my saved game from 3-4 years ago, not so much because of the mechanics; they didn’t bother me too much.

Empricorn,

If I was offered a million dollars if I could continue where I left off in Morrowind (major, minor, side, or goals)… Yeah, I’ll be in tomorrow, boss.

timo_timboo_,

Pokémon, actually. Just a month ago I wanted to play Soul Silver. But man, it is tedious. There’s so much slow dialog, long animations, and little inconveniences everywhere (even in the menus). And I feel like you also have to grind to progress, which I absolutely hate in games (but maybe I also just didn’t play well enough, whatever). So yeah, quite disappointed with it since I remember the 3DS games being quite fun.

ryathal,

Pokemon is better with game shark style cheats. It’s way more fun to have the option to get 100x more xp, and force Pokemon to appear rather than grind a 1% appearance rate. Pokémon even made TMs reusable eventually, but you need cheats for that in the early games.

NoneYa,

The new games are still the same way.

Quit holding my fucking hand and let me play the damn game already.

“This is a Pokémon and this is how you battle…”

Motherfucker, I’ve been playing these games since I was 7.

It took me so long to keep sticking with Sword and I just couldn’t. I just wanted to hop into the world and catch some Pokémon, battle, and discover the world.

BillyTheSkidMark,

I haven’t played since ORAS, but I think they’ll always have those tutorials cause they’re targeted at kids. Like I was playing the original at 10 and now my kids starting to get into Pokémon at 6.

I feel like they should allow an “adult” version though. Like no hand holding and harder.

It’s wild how little the most financially successful franchise of all time has innovated.

JokeDeity,

I’ve always wanted there to be an option when you start a new Pokemon game that just lets you say “I’ve played Pokemon before let me get into it”, it really is a pain in the ass as an adult.

BillyTheSkidMark,

Ironically another draw y for emulators over the two thing. Just speed up the boring bits 8x

Fiivemacs,

Anything with consoles as the primary focus. You know the games, the ones where the controls suck if you don’t use a controller…like witcher, and all those dark souls copy/paste clones. Cameras are too jank

ImplyingImplications,

Personally, the earlier Witcher games. Great story, but it’s trapped in an old RPG missing all kinds of modern features and mechanics.

canis_majoris,
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When the first Witcher came out, Yahtzee’s review was spot on. It’s a good game, it’s got a lot of depth, but a lot of the mechanics are arcane and just not fun.

Witcher 2 made big strides in this department, finally culminating in Witcher 3 - I am in a similar boat in terms of having serious issues trying to play the first two Witcher games.

Psythik,

Starfield

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Damn! Burn

nyakojiru,
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Life

MxM111,
@MxM111@kbin.social avatar

Not to be confused with John Conway’s the game of life. That one is fine, a classic.

all-knight-party,
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I dunno man, Conway's Game of Life has a quite boring endgame, I must say.

ryathal,

Probably going to get some hate for these.

FFVII. The pc port was ass, controls were a pain on keyboard and there wasn’t great controller support. The graphics were really tough to ignore, and the combat felt like fighting the control scheme more than anything. I’ve played and liked many other titles in the series, but I couldn’t manage this one by the time I got to it. The experience was also so bad I have no interest in the remake/remaster.

Morrowind. Played it a ton on Xbox, but I can’t get back into it on pc anymore. Even with mods to alleviate the graphics and draw distance, the game is so dated. Building a character can be very punishing in the early game, and easily break able in the late game. Many weapon skills are garbage because they lack enough support in items. Movement speed was tied to a skill, jumping is significantly faster, but also a skill. The leveling process is arcane and not adequately explained in game. The journal is awful, so you better remember what quests you are doing. Item storage was a pain because crates had weight limits, and merchants had pitiful amounts of gold to sell items.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Have you tried Tifa’s Bootleg? There are mods that can drastically improve the graphics

tal,
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Morrowind. Played it a ton on Xbox, but I can’t get back into it on pc anymore. Even with mods to alleviate the graphics and draw distance, the game is so dated.

I played through it for the first time a few years ago, using the open-source OpenMW engine. It definitely isn’t graphically-competitive with modern games, but I was still able to enjoy it.

Here’s a current image:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQUYr7JhNXg

Building a character can be very punishing in the early game, and easily break able in the late game.

I feel like a lot of people enjoyed the game because they could break it in the late game.

Many weapon skills are garbage because they lack enough support in items.

Yeah, though I don’t think that any Elder Scrolls or Fallout game has really had a truly balanced skill tree, though.

The journal is awful, so you better remember what quests you are doing.

Yeah, I have to say that automated quest tracking and note-taking is definitely something that I like about modern RPGs. Sometimes it starts to feel too much like “go to waypoint, do thing, repeat”, but I remember manually mapping dungeons with teleporters on graph paper in the D&D Gold Box games, and it was just arduous.

LZamperini,

Knights of the old republic 1 and 2. First my old PC couldn't run it and my new one it just feels too jank and ugly. I love star wars games and am sad if the remake stays dead.

limeaide,

Personally I love that era of graphics tbh. I bought Valheim on the Steam sale just for the jank graphics lol

canis_majoris,
@canis_majoris@lemmy.ca avatar

KOTOR is jank, but I would say it’s entirely due to the controls. It acts like point-and-click even on controllers, where you have to use the D-pad to select the element and interact with it using the face buttons.

Also, the semi-pseudo-turn-based combat system doesn’t really totally hold up, I wish there was a way of smoothing it out.

There are higher resolution texture projects for both KOTOR 1 and 2, I think KOTOR 2 has it available natively with the Steam Workshop.

all-knight-party,
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Funnily enough I've played KoTOR so much that I can still go back and play those, and aside from the camera control it's totally comfy for me.

Zeke,

Baldur's Gate 3 was good, but I can't play 1 or 2. They definitely don't feel the same.

For newer games, I can actually play the older Zelda games, but I can't stand the latest games. Not a big fan of the gameplay with weapons breaking and how much they pushed the open world thing. I very much prefer smaller maps with more story.

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