Drusas,

Harassing someone who has been fighting for a ceasefire. These kind of protestors don't realize how they only damage their cause by looking like extremists and idiots.

juicy,

Asking our politicians to call a genocide a genocide isn’t unreasonable. AOC should be ashamed.

Drusas,

The congresswoman, who has been a strong advocate of an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, insisted she had already denounced Israel’s actions as genocide and therefore the protesters’ anger was misplaced.

“I already said that it was and y’all are just gonna pretend that it wasn’t over and over again - it’s f---ed up, man,” she said. “And you’re not helping these people, and you’re not helping them, you’re not helping them."

Are you going to pretend to know what she has said at work?

KairuByte,

One day old account intentionally misleading in its responses. 🤔 🤔 🤔

donuts, (edited )

Lemmy is leaking. lmao

ps: Hamas should free the hostages, stop hiding behind innocent people and accept the ceasefire deal.

Hominine,
@Hominine@lemmy.world avatar

This nonsense is replete here on Lemmy. These purity-test “liberals” are the snake eating its tail and it is more than gratifying to see a strong ally like AOC call this bullshit out. These reprobates do nothing for the Palestinian cause outside of stroking their own lazy egos.

Such liars are in my recent post history and I find myself gladly swatting them down; surely they will defend these selfsame tactics right here where they are laid bare…

juicy,

God-forbid we ask politicians who pretend to be progressive to call a genocide a genocide. We’re so far gone in this country that our so-called far-left politicians like Bernie Sanders won’t even call for a permanent ceasefire. People are waking up to the depth of moral bankruptcy in our politicians across the board.

Hominine,
@Hominine@lemmy.world avatar

Sure.

Son_of_dad,

These people don’t care about Palestine. They are driven by their hate of liberals, women and Jews, and they are loving all this because they now have a mask they can wear and get cheered

bigMouthCommie,
@bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

>They are driven by their hate of liberals, women and Jews,

i understand hating liberals, but there is no evidence of misogyny or antisemitism in this story.

quindraco, (edited )

That makes no sense. They targeted a liberal woman, why cherry pick her liberal status over her female status for their motivation?

Besides, neither makes sense. They went after one of the staunchest liberals in the House by claiming she wasn’t liberal enough. That was false and therefore absurd, but there’s no evidence they hate liberals.

Far more likely they’re just unfathomably stupid.

Son_of_dad,

Cause these people protesting her aren’t liberals. They’re hard right Islamists who oppose Israel. Just because they are on the side you agree with, doesn’t mean they’re good people.

juicy,

You mean they don’t support the Zionist project to drive Palestinians off of their land and claim it for themselves as Israel has done since before the Naqba in 1948? And they want a supposedly progressive politician to call the genocide what it is? Wow, some nutjobs!

Son_of_dad,

The moment you say “Zionist” most people roll their eyes and know exactly what you’re talking about. It’s like when you refer to a black person as a “thug”, we know where your mind is at. May as well go poke eye holes on a white sheet

juicy,

They know I’m talking about the movement that got early inspiration from the Austro-Hungarian Jewish journalist Theodor Herzl in 1896 when he called for the establishment of a Jewish state in either Argentina or Palestine to escape anti-semitic persecution throughout Europe? The movement championed by American Protestant lay worker and businessman William Blackstone in 1891 in the petition he circulated, marking the beginning of the alliance of American Christianity with Zionism? Blackstone, who was motivated by the belief that the restoration of a Jewish state in Israel would signal that the rapture was imminent, and whose petition received the most pushback from American Jews?

They know I’m talking about the movement that was described by Zachary Lockman?:

Zionism shared the propensity of all nationalisms to ignore the rights, needs, and aspirations of those excluded from the national “family.” But it also partook of an available contemporary European discourse that delineated a certain set of perceptions of, attitudes toward, and relations with the African and Asian lands and peoples subject to, or now falling under, the economic and political domination of Europeans. That broader colonial discourse also drew on, and overlapped with, older European images and representations of “the Orient.”[6] With appropriate modifications, these systems of representation could be made to fit the specific situation of the Jews and of Zionism and could be applied to Palestine, just as they were at that same moment being applied elsewhere by other projects of European colonization and settlement that altogether lacked Zionism’s origin as a response to a very real (and worsening) oppression in Europe itself.

juicy,

Stupid people wanting their political representatives to call a spade a spade

Son_of_dad,

There’s no anti-Semitism or misogyny in the anti Israel, Islamic world, is that what you just said? Lol

bigMouthCommie,
@bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

no, you're putting words in my mouth. we are talking about this video ambush.

Son_of_dad,

The protesters in thus video are pro Islamist bigots

bigMouthCommie,
@bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

what makes you think they are bigots or even proislam8at. my impression is they are anti genocide leftists

metaStatic,

are you saying we didn't go to the moon?

Binzy_Boi,
Binzy_Boi avatar

Because the right would support Palestine, that's absolutely how this works.

Son_of_dad,

If it was up to the right, Palestine would have been wiped off the map decades ago. Actually right around 9/11 when every American was standing behind bush and out for Muslim blood

nilloc,

We were not all standing behind that war criminal. 50000 of us protested in Boston alone.

There was a majority supporting those assholes, but plenty of us didn’t agree with the obviously unrelated invasion of Iraq and the bungling of Afghanistan (where we later learned, they had probably just let Bin Laden walk across the border to Pakistan).

Buffalox,

I’m assuming sarcasm, and I’m puzzled why you are downvoted? Because 100% the right will NOT support Palestine.
But as a rule of thumb, sarcasm should not be assumed, so maybe you should be more clear?

Binzy_Boi,
Binzy_Boi avatar

Was sarcasm.

Also can't see downvotes on my instance. Not sure why.

juicy,

AOC isn’t Jewish and Israel doesn’t represent the Jewish people.

Son_of_dad,

You could have fooled me. Since they’re protesting and harassing her, and since everyone on Lemmy and out protesting can’t tell the difference between a Jewish person and an Israeli . The amount of anti semitism out on full force recently proves that

juicy,

The Israeli government and their allies have deliberately tried to muddy the waters, calling any criticism of Israel antisemitism. But what is antisemitic is suggesting every Jewish person unconditionally supports every action of a colonial genocidal state.

i_have_no_enemies,

they were harassing her, these protests are nothing but an pro-islamist mob they need to be locked up

Binzy_Boi,
Binzy_Boi avatar

Agree with their protest or not, you can't "lock them up" for this. The video clearly shows a peaceful protest with no violence involved. Locking them up would violate their free speech rights.

i_have_no_enemies,

harrasment is a crime

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