some_guy,

I’m shocked that, SHOCKED I tellz ya, that MAGA shitheads would berate women for anything other than staying barefoot and preggers in the kitchen.

SoleInvictus,

I feel like MAGA shit heads would also find a way to berate women for being barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.

billwashere,

Something about leopards and faces comes to mind.

cabron_offsets,

No sympathy. Idiots.

todd_bonzalez,

Sympathy for Trump supporters who get their faces eaten by leopards might be difficult to muster, but it’s probably an effective outreach strategy.

Boddhisatva,

A federal magistrate judge has ordered the campaign to produce by May 31 a list of all discrimination and harassment complaints made during Trump’s 2016 and 2020 presidential runs

That is going to be a long list.

FordBeeblebrox,

The last bullet point should be “undue stress and hardship having to enumerate all of this endless bullshit.”

Son_of_dad,

Who are these harassed women going to vote for? Cause I have a feeling they didn’t learn

TheJims,

I’m Nikki Haley and I approve this message… probably

Bytemeister,

I never thought leopards would eat my face…

-Average Leopards-Eating-Faces party voter-

CharlesDarwin,
@CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world avatar

The Serena Waterfords of the Republican Party are going to vote for Ronald McDonald. Or maybe some BS third party candidate, or do a ridiculous write-in protest vote like children.

But never for the Democratic Party, I mean, my stars! Can you imagine, voting for the Democratic Party?

Zombiepirate,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

As far as I’m concerned, anyone who did political work for that piece of shit gets what they deserve.

Typical reactionaries: they’re only upset when they become the target of the hatered they were slinging.

It’s not like it was a secret that Trump and team are a hugely vindictive bag of assholes.

GroundedGator,

This woman has done so much work for many people who worked on the campaign. She has spent her own resources to get the NDAs that her and others signed declared non binding, or whatever the legal term is.

I’m not a fan of Trump supporters, but telling them to pound sand because they supported him at some point but have seen the errors in their ways will do us no favors.

Check out some of her work and her story

Her story

Zombiepirate,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

If you stop being a fascist, you get a “good job, now roll up your sleeves and help undo the damage.”

She helped empower the people who are harassing her (and countless others); I’m glad that she’s working to reverse that, but she doesn’t get a cookie for her efforts- she (hopefully) gets to live in a society that doesn’t put up with this shit.

DMBFFF,

She must atone before she is taken seriously.

snownyte,
@snownyte@kbin.social avatar

When you work for Trump - you are expendable.

It's why we're seeing all of these former Trump colleagues going around like "Why, why did he do this to me?" "Why, I was special to him!!"

Trump only cares about Trump.

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Zombiepirate,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

She was working to make sure that far worse harassment happened to much more vulnerable people.

I’m not going to cry when she gets some splash damage.

bolexforsoup, (edited )

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Zombiepirate,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

She worked to make my kids a target because she didn’t think it would impact her life.

I don’t have any sympathy for anyone who did that.

bolexforsoup, (edited )

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Zombiepirate,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe you should eat something.

You sound a bit grumpy.

We’ll talk after you’ve had your nap, okay buddy?

bolexforsoup, (edited )

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Zombiepirate,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

Ah, so insulting my parenting was productive, but getting called on it was a bit too spicy.

You truly are the bigger person.

bolexforsoup, (edited )

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Zombiepirate,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

I see, anything is fair game to insult so long as your interlocutor introduced the topic!

I taught my kids to take responsibility for their words.

You’ve apparently not learned that lesson.

Maybe you’ll grow up one day.

CharlesDarwin,
@CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world avatar

I keep getting reminded of Serena Waterford when it comes to so many Republican women…

TranscendentalEmpire,

In your view, does anyone “deserve” mistreatment?

Because being mangled by the machine you helped build to mangle people, kinda just seems like poetic irony.

bolexforsoup, (edited )

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TranscendentalEmpire,

“Deserved” is a subjective qualifier though. It doesn’t really mean anything without reference to an ethical framework for context.

Saying I deserve a doughnut, basically means I want a donut unless there’s a specific context that alludes to why you should be rewarded with a doughnut.

bolexforsoup, (edited )

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TranscendentalEmpire,

I don’t really think so, otherwise they probably would have said it. I think you’re just utilizing loaded terminology to suit your argument.

It would be like seeing the guys from jackass injure themselves in a stunt, and then accusing people who witnessed it of being callous for not being sympathetic. “No one deserves to break their penis for entertainment purposes!”… Well, okay, I guess that’s a nice platitude. But that guy was swinging his dick at an angry bull, and no one was making him do it.

bolexforsoup, (edited )

I am so tired of this prescriptive bullshit on online forms. If you don’t see it then fine, you don’t see it. But don’t make up some nonsense about me to pretend I didn’t read what I read. We just disagree, it’s that simple.

Sometimes people mean more than the words in front of you. It’s called nuance, implications, etc. People mean more than what they literally wrote sometimes. Yet for some reason when we are on forums people pretend that doesn’t exist, like interpretation can’t exist ever.

TranscendentalEmpire,

Well, this would be fine if you weren’t attacking other people’s interpretations…

Usually when people witness a criticism they want to know the logic behind that criticism.

People mean more than what they literally wrote sometimes. Yet for some reason when we are on forums people pretend that doesn’t exist

I think that’s because the whole point of forums is to express your ideas through the written word. Expecting people in a forum to interpret your argument with nuance when you express none is idiotic.

bolexforsoup,

So the written word doesn’t contain nuance or implications? It’s never open to interpretation? That’s certainly a take. I am not going to be as dick-ish as you though and call you idiotic.

TranscendentalEmpire,

So the written word doesn’t contain nuance or implications? It’s never open to interpretation?

Man, can you fucking read? The written word contains nuance and implications, but you can’t interpret it from someone’s writing that is devoid of it…

I can’t say I don’t like lord of the rigs, and then expect people to assume my reasoning is nuanced, or that my statement may spur any further implications.

That’s certainly a take. I am not going to be as dick-ish as you though and call you idiotic.

I think we just have interpretations of what I have said. People are allowed to have nuanced opinions. Maybe, idiotic isn’t an implication of being dick-ish to me?

dick-ish

No one deserves to be called a dick. Be better.

bolexforsoup, (edited )

Oh but I deserved to be called an idiot? Go fuck yourself and spare me the high road nonsense.

Feel free to have the last word. I’m sure it’s very important to you.

TranscendentalEmpire,

Lol, didn’t get the sarcasm?

GroundedGator,

Back then, most people didn’t understand the threat that was Trump. I sure didn’t know all of the horrific things he did. This was pre Epstein. This was before Stormy.

I thought he was just a bombastic rich asshole with a shit political outlook.

Someone taking a job in that campaign had no reason to think it would be toxic. Most campaigns are not run by the candidate but by the party.

Zombiepirate,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, he began his political career by a racist attack on Obama.

He started his campaign by calling Mexican immigrants rapists and drug dealers.

He said a judge couldn’t be fair to him because the guy had Mexican heritage.

He openly campaigned on a Muslim ban in the US and commiting war crimes by killing the families of terrorists.

There was a tape where he admitted to sexual assault.

Any ignorance to the fact that he was a vile, racist, bigoted rapist was intentional. Doubly so if she worked to get him elected.

barsquid,

Correct. Everyone full well knew what a sack of shit he was. 2016 at the absolute latest. Everyone in New York knew for decades. She knew.

CharlesDarwin,
@CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world avatar

You’d think someone politically connected enough to work for him would know.

TranscendentalEmpire,

There’s a difference in victim blaming via " what was she wearing" and someone knowingly walking into a lions den while wearing a meat dress like Lady Gag.

It would be a little different if she didn’t actively work to empower a person whose platform revolves around harassing and silencing women who have been sexually assaulted.

Being a bad person does not mean you give up any assumption of basic human dignity.

People who take people’s dignity in an inhumane manor do not themselves deserve to be treated with basic dignity. That’s just inviting a paradox of abuse.

Zombiepirate,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly.

There’s a big difference between blaming the victim and reaping the whirlwind.

bolexforsoup, (edited )

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TranscendentalEmpire,

That’s okay, people are allowed to have differing opinions. I was just curious about the extent of your world view. It seems to invite internal contradictions, or at least rely on a hefty amount of cognitive dissidence.

For example, if no one deserves that type of treatment, what does the person committing or enabling those acts deserve?

If they deserve a punishment, why not the one they laid upon others? Is it because of the nature of the treatment is somehow worse than other punishments? If it is worse for some reason, why do they deserve better treatment than what they serve to others?

Crazyslinkz,

What!? The trump campaign harassing women?!

/s (because internet)

dogsnest,
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