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Linkerbaan, to world in German Cabinet backs deportations for praise of terrorism
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Gestapo in full force to protect israel.

fluxion, to world in Bolivia: Top general arrested after coup attempt fails

Oh wow… you’re supposed to arrest the leader after a failed coup and not try to elect them as president? Very progressive.

afraid_of_zombies, to world in German Cabinet backs deportations for praise of terrorism

Does that include throwing paint on Stonehedge and blocking ambulances?

febra, to world in German Cabinet backs deportations for praise of terrorism

Using the slogan “from the river to the sea” or posting the red triangle 🔻 will also count as praising terrorism. I’m not even joking. I watched the press conference where the government spokesperson confirmed this. As such they’ll be able to deport you for using “from the river to the sea” or for even liking a post using it.

rimjob_rainer,

Wouldn’t that go against Artikel 5 Grundgesetz, free speech etc?

febra,

Apparently not. Talk to our government officials. According to them “from the river to the sea” constitutes praising terrorism.

Here is the press conference, in German. The subject is discussed from the given timestamp (5:50) to around minute 20. youtu.be/lBmDdNZmToU?si=PqnNvXxDdyXkrbqN&t=351

rimjob_rainer,

wtf

Raiderkev, to world in US journalist Evan Gershkovich faces Russian spy charges

Russia like y’all got any more of them lords of war?

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e841ae67-0461-4fe0-a9a4-8c4466a033ba.gif

mysticpickle,

That international arms dealer for WNBA player trade reminded me of that kid in middle school that traded away his Mox Ruby for a Serra Angel because it looked cooler.

Raiderkev,

Or when I was 5 years old, and some dick older kid traded me 2 nickels for a quarter. Learned a hard lesson that day.

mysticpickle,

But you got TWO coins! That’s like twice as good as one!

Caligvla, to world in German Cabinet backs deportations for praise of terrorism
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Uh-huh… I wonder what their definition of “”“terrorism”“” is.

doodledup,

Is this a serious question? These things are already well defined in the law. There is no conspiracy here, sorry. You need to look elsewhere.

pandapoo,

Just because something is legally defined, doesn’t mean the law will be equally applied and it’s not a conspiracy theory to point out the German government’s long history of unequal application of draconian laws that are used to target specific demographic groups.

The groups they choose to target may change as time moves on, but the tactic remains.

theacharnian,
@theacharnian@lemmy.ca avatar

I don’t speak German, so this is just Google Translate:

  1. Anyone who establishes an organization (§ 129 paragraph 2) whose purpose or activity is aimed at

  2. murder (§ 211) or manslaughter (§ 212) or genocide (§ 6 of the International Criminal Code) or crimes against humanity (§ 7 of the International Criminal Code) or war crimes (§§ 8, 9, 10, 11 or § 12 of the International Criminal Code) or

  3. crimes against personal freedom in the cases of § 239a or § 239b or anyone who participates in such an organization as a member shall be punished with imprisonment from one year to ten years.

So like, just wondering a hypothetical here, let’s say that in the future the ICJ sides with South Africa against Israel regarding the Gaza genocide case, would Germany actually start persecuting pro-kahanist bootlickers for terrorism? Or does the German “raison d’etat” cover criminals if they’re Jewish Israelis?

MyEdgyAlt, to world in German Cabinet backs deportations for praise of terrorism

So, supporting all terorrism will be treated the same way, right? Or does this only apply to terrorism not conducted by the “good guys”?

Cethin,

The issue is it’s only terrorism when the “bad guys” do it. The word is beyond useless.

Badeendje, to world in German Cabinet backs deportations for praise of terrorism
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So how does that work with equal treatment under the law?

Does this not just mean some get punished harder than others?

That said, I can imagine that people that do not have a passport to your country can be kindly requested to fuck off and never return again. And I think that is a good thing. From a countries perspective: my passport… my problem, not my passport… GTFO.

Crackhappy, to world in US journalist Evan Gershkovich faces Russian spy charges
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

I have no comment on the article at all, I just want to say that photo is amazing.

Carrolade, to world in US journalist Evan Gershkovich faces Russian spy charges

Pretty sure that if you’re a spy, reporter is probably the worst possible cover, since a reporter is already someone that very clearly snoops, and snooping people get watched closely.

I think a much better spy would be a native born Russian, working in a lower-level job where people don’t pay a whole lot of attention to them.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, this guy is just a pawn. The Kremlin is desperate for leverage against the west and he’s unfortunate enough to be caught up in it.

Dkarma,

Stupid enough to go to russia

Murvel,

He’s a journalist, risks are part of his job…

Meansalladknifehands,

Do you actually think that intelligence agencies are only in contact with one guy? Why wouldn’t the CIA be interested in a reporter traveling to Russia to do a story about Wagner?

Carrolade,

Whether the CIA is interested in the guy is one thing, they’re probably interested in a lot of things. The guy working for them is another.

Spies being interested in you, and being a spy, are not the same thing.

Meansalladknifehands,

Yeah I agree, it’s impossible to know if he’s a spy or not. He might even not know he had shared intresset with other agencies, someone might have led him closer to Wagner than he initially intended.

But he does raise a lot of questions for the Russian it intelligence.

Carrolade,

Yeah, I think it’s pretty easy to say he’s not a spy. If he was, he’s the dumbest spy in the history of spies.

Meansalladknifehands,

The whole issue is your “if”, basically you don’t know, and you are just guessing. Out of curiosity how do define a spy?

Carrolade,

Well, yeah, of course I cannot be certain. I am not that guy. That’s why I’m just trying to apply some basic sense. A spy to me is a person doing espionage work specifically for their government. The difference with a journalist is a journalist is not working specifically for their government, and will publicly publish their findings where a spy would usually not.

Meansalladknifehands,

I think we have a different view of spying, this can also be Russians just want a prisoner swap.

All intelligence services have people working for them undercover, you can be hired by or talked into doing x and y by an some intelligence service, you can also be asked to share information with them. They can even help you getting in contact with the right people to make what ever you’re trying to do easier.

You can say that a journalist will publish it findings, but also the journalist can do a lot of other things. I mean I can think of multiple things that the CIA would be interested in that is not necessarily related to the journalistic job. Like recruiting a spy inside Wagner, milking information that is a secret: locations, personnel or arsenal. It can also be a damageing story, Russias official stance is that Wagner is not controlled by the state.

Is he a spy? Does he become a spy if he is spying?

Anyways we don’t know, Russia maybe just wants s prisoner swap, and maybe this journalist was digging in places that he shouldn’t have. We arrest Russian and Chinese spies all the time, some of them are working as journalists.

Carrolade,

Certainly, a journalist could be an asset or informant or whatever you’d want to call it, for an intelligence service. He’s putting himself and his professional reputation at risk though. If the intelligence service wanted x piece of information about whatever, there are simply easier ways to get it. Bribe a Russian.

You don’t need to ask the American guy that everyone already knows about and is probably being watched to go look at it for you.

I also haven’t heard of any journalists being arrested for espionage in the west.

Meansalladknifehands,
Mango, to world in Greece introduces the six-day work week

Fuck them employers. Supply more money if you want your job to be in higher demand. Cut the bums off, and I’m taking about the middle management/CEO trash.

Burn_The_Right, to world in Iran's water crisis leads to alarming ground collapse

Reason why conservatives should never, ever be permitted to run a nation.

ms_lane, to world in Greece introduces the six-day work week

The Greek Exodus begins…

billybong,

It began years ago. That’s why things are so bad in Greece, most of the people able to leave have done already in search of a better life and leaving behind a shortage of skilled labour and labour in general. Meanwhile non economically active people, mostly children and retired still need to be supported somehow and unsurprisingly the public finances are in a poor state.

bassad,

it has never stopped, there are more Greeks dispatched in the world than in Greece.

ultratiem, to world in Greece introduces the six-day work week
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

require staff to work up to two unpaid hours per day

Well ima head out

Rekorse,

How’s that any different that salary workers in the US that are exempt from OT protections and are required to work extra hours for free or else be subject to discipline, up to and including losing your job?

A lot of modern western countries do the same stuff and just hide it better or target groups that won’t speak out.

ultratiem,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s worded better in the US? 🙃

iaMLoWiQ, to world in Greece introduces the six-day work week

6 days for 1 job? We should work 2 jobs 5 days a week. Lazy people here.

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