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iaMLoWiQ, to world in Greece introduces the six-day work week

6 days for 1 job? We should work 2 jobs 5 days a week. Lazy people here.

dugmeup, to world in Greece introduces the six-day work week

It’s simple, I do work , i get paid. Labour ain’t free.

You can’t get enough workers, sounds like a supply and demand problem.

ultratiem,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

Clowns have it backwards. Instead of empowering workers to make better things, to receive better education and actually become a force in this modern world, they are empowering employers so they can exploit them more. It’s like their government has a collective IQ of 6 (+/- 3). You just can’t make up this level of stupid.

khaleer,

They just know who is government and elite enemy.

Maggoty,

The productivity of the country is going somewhere. If it’s not coming back to help the people then that tells you everything you need to know about the motives of their leadership.

Noedel,

It seems like “what are you going to do, fire me” is an adequate response, since they would be doing themselves more harm than good

Mango,

Right? Job interview time: 6 days per week mandatory? Fuck that, I got a side hustle.

Wes4Humanity, to world in Greece introduces the six-day work week

Huh, I wonder if any of those refugees they keep murdering might have been able to do some work?

deadbeef79000, to world in Iran's water crisis leads to alarming ground collapse

Inshallah

wewbull, to world in Iran's water crisis leads to alarming ground collapse

How much of this is climate change and how much is agriculture? Could better agriculture techniques help? Or not needing Iran to be wholly self-sufficient because of sanctions?

jack,

It’s clearly because of women who dress immodestly. The boobquake has finally arrived.

zephorah, to world in Greece introduces the six-day work week

Fuck. Don’t give corporate America ideas. It’ll be the next shit spun through this travesty of a Supreme Court.

avidamoeba,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

The labor law challenges have already started.

AshMan85,

Why do you think Amazon and Elon musk are arguing with the Supreme Court that the DOL and labor rights are unconstitutional.

Rekorse,

America already permits forced unpaid overtime, especially on corporate positions. We just hide it better I guess?

Oh and we also permit slave labor, provided the “slave” is also a criminal of some kind.

I’m sure there’s other examples but that’s all I have at the moment.

zephorah,

Yes they do. Did you know, in healthcare, they can do this with all the nurses in more than half the states? It’s about whether or not your state has rules against it. The ones who have restricted it recognize how dangerous it is for patient safety. Kids have died because of errors made in these scenarios. And that’s just the publicized court case stuff. I’m sure grandma, with a no CPR choice logged in her chart, gets swept under the rug or not noticed as an aberration.

Hospital administration is cheap so they’ll use it as a standard staffing strategy rather than call an outside, more expensive agency, to fill in, when the state lets them.

These are usually the same states that do not have lunch break laws.

So you can get a nurse: post-surgical, ICU, ER, or elsewhere who hasn’t slept in 24hrs. Hasn’t eaten anything in 15hrs. Maybe longer, because these people have kids and go to class. There’s no sleeping between call lights, they have to be attentive for the duration.

They’re tapped on the shoulder about an hour or two before shift end and told they’re staying. On penalty of abandonment on their license.

Idk about you, but I can’t read words at about 18hrs. Working tired is like working drunk. This is scary.

That’s what I want when I’ve been in a bad car accident and need to be hospitalized. My safety in the hands of one person who is in their 21st hour awake and hasn’t eaten for 10-12hrs because nothing that sells food is open at night, including the hospital cafeteria. Even the food prep crowd is screwed on this one.

Another fun fact. At night, hospitals run with a skeleton crew of docs. Normally, this is fine. You have competent help, read: nurses, who can see and predict the patient having problems and can then call the doc, or page an emergency overhead and get even more people for the patient. Enter mandatory overtime nurse. How well is he going to do on this while essentially working drunk?

But hey, if it saves corporate a buck then it’s worth playing this game of Russian roulette, amiright?

Rekorse,

Well I didn’t know about any of that and that’s all awful.

Makes me upset healing people has been twisted so much. Shocking there’s anyone left in the field under those conditions.

ScruffyDucky, to world in Greece introduces the six-day work week

Wrong direction, I hope that the greeks express their dissatisfaction loudly

DoucheBagMcSwag, (edited )

Time to do domestic crimes

ms_lane,

Or just move, they’re in the Schengen zone so the rest of the EU is open to them.

jordanlund, to world in Greece introduces the six-day work week
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

A 6th day at 40% pay? Yeah, that’s a big “no.”

OTOH… a 40 hour week, for the same pay, spread across 6 days wouldn’t be awful.

Mon - 7 hours.
Tue - 7 hours.
Wed - 7 hours.
Thur - 7 hours.
Fri - 6 hours.
Sat - 6 hours.

Or however you want to arrange it:

Mon - 5 hours.
Tue - 5 hours.
Wed - 7 hours.
Thur - 7 hours.
Fri - 8 hours.
Sat - 8 hours.

Mon - 6 hours.
Tue - 6 hours.
Wed - 6 hours.
Thur - 6 hours.
Fri - 8 hours.
Sat - 8 hours.

FlowVoid,

A 6th day at 40% pay? Yeah, that’s a big “no.”

It’s 40% extra pay, like overtime in the US.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, well that’s DIFFERENT!

syct31e8hu,

Nonsense

TacticsConsort, to world in Greece introduces the six-day work week
@TacticsConsort@yiffit.net avatar

ELI5: Why is the greek economy so fucked?

PugJesus,

A lot of reasons, but deeply rooted incompetence and graft in the government is a big one. A culture of tax evasion, lack of enforcement of laws on the private sector, and a lack of investment in improving industrial practices (leading to low productivity per hour worked compared to countries that DO keep up-to-date) also contribute.

TacticsConsort,
@TacticsConsort@yiffit.net avatar

Very informative, thank you.

You can kind of see how all these problems would compound with each other and make each other worse. Of course people don’t wand to pay taxes to a government that will waste or embezzle their money. But the government does need money to make things happen that might improve the situations of the everyday worker. The government needs competent administrators, lawmakers and judges to properly regulate the private sector, but the private sector can pay a competent person triple what the government pays because the private sector isn’t subject to laws that force them to be ethical.

Guess there’s a reason that corruption is such a common cause of failed governments.

avidamoeba,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Any explanation that doesn’t include the fallout from the Great Recession and the following years of austerity is grossly incomplete at best.

xmunk,

I am sure the bizarrely numerous Greek billionaires are completely unrelated to their economy being fucked and not a clear sign of how deeply inequal and stratified the Greek economy is! Lots of hyper wealthy and destitute citizens means that everything is working, right?

syct31e8hu,

Why do think it’s fucked? Where are you from?

wewbull,

…because they are going to a 6 day work week.

SaltySalamander,

You opened this account just to ask this question?

SuddenDownpour,

Plenty of different reasons.

Historically, Greece was a poor country in Europe because it was the periphery of the Ottoman empire and therefore barely received investment.

Through the 20th century, the country went through pretty corrupt governments (one of them being a dictatorship).

When they joined the European market, it was already a very unproductive country in relative terms, which tends to force you into remaining in the periphery under normal market conditions; and their most educated citizens saw a very easy and profitable opportunity in just migrating out.

On top of that, the only sector of the Greek economy that had any sort of strength was tourism, which very rarely provides good wages.

By the 2007 crisis, they already had a dangerously high debt. Because they were, again, a tourism-focused economy, when the countries that had the most tourists going to Greece entered into recession, Greece’s income plumetted as well, and the debt just soared.

A little bit later, Greeks elected Syriza, which had simply accepted that they were in a debt spiral that would ultimately crush the country. Syriza’s leaders told the other European governments that their debt had to be renegotiated (annoying for Greece’s creditors, but at least it would be possible for them to pay in some capacity), or they’d leave the Euro-zone and just declare bankruptcy (thus they wouldn’t pay back anything) (terrible for Greece, but perhaps not as terrible as the alternative).

The rest of Europe told them to fuck off for a variety of reasons (plenty of German newspapers had chosen Greece as their sacrificial lamb, often calling the people of Southern European countries lazy, the Spanish president back then wanted to crush Syriza because they had been associated with a growing Spanish opposition party, generally a lot of them were into fanatical fiscal conservatism).

Then Syriza chose not to leave the Euro-zone anyway (which provoked Varoufakis to leave the government, out of principle), and just stick to managing the country’s misery. It has only been shit year after shit year for Greece since then, as any possibility of steering into a different direction was shot dead. It’s just a country without hope at this point.

Omniraptor,

Varoufakis (Marxist econ professor and also briefly the Greek finance minister) wrote a book about this called “the adults in the room”. He’s biased of course but I respect him a lot

YourPrivatHater, to world in Greece introduces the six-day work week

Above 10% unemployment yet more work time… Something aint right.

YourPrivatHater, to world in Iran's water crisis leads to alarming ground collapse

Well, less work for Israel when they continue to support genocidal maniacs with weapons… Or for USA, depending on who goes in first.

eskimofry,

I assume you don’t think Brown people are human and deserve the same level of respect, empathy and kindness you get in society?

YourPrivatHater,

Yeah shure thats what i was saying! Shure!

Man you are just jumping to conclusions like life is a jump and run.

Enkers, to world in Greece introduces the six-day work week

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say you’re not going to address your labour shortage by making things worse for labourers.

PugJesus,

It’s like Greece doesn’t understand what being part of a (mostly) united labor market with the EU means.

You have to offer better standards, not worse, to retain labor

GreatDong3000,

Grexit when

wewbull,

Is that when the Country leaves the EU or the people leave the country?

Lost_My_Mind,

Yes.

ThePowerOfGeek,
@ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world avatar

The beatings will continue until morale improves!

SlopppyEngineer,

Usually people will work less hard to save some energy for that extra day of work they have to do.

Rekorse,

Seems like a stop gap, is there supposed to be some larger plan to turn Greece around?

ultratiem,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

A stop gap till what? There just isn’t anything left to “labour” for?

jeena, to world in Greece introduces the six-day work week
@jeena@piefed.jeena.net avatar

So school and Kindergarten will also be six days? Otherwise what do you do with your young children?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Well whatever you do, don’t give them to Socrates to look after!

sir_pronoun,

No no, Socrates is exactly who we need right now! …Damn, why did we poison him??

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Trust me, you let Socrates teach your kids and they just come home and ask you endless questions.

PugJesus,

Why?

flyingjake,

socratic method: a method of teaching by question and answer; used by Socrates to elicit truths from his students en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_method

Cryophilia,

If you ever read Socrates, most of his questions are just giving you the answer and then saying “doesn’t that make sense?”

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar
StaySquared, to world in Stonehenge sprayed with paint by environmental protesters

So… they deface a wonder of the world? WTF did Stonehenge ever do to these weirdos?

WindyRebel,

Big stone is increasing carbon into the air and it doesn’t care!

/s

StaySquared,

lol.

555, to world in Pakistani 'blasphemy vigilante' mob kills man

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    Removed, Islamophobia.

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