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TheRazorX, to gaming in Final Fantasy 16 Producer Naoki Yoshida Wishes There Was Only One Console - IGN

A single console is one of those things that sounds great on paper, but considering how scummy the industry has been lately, would be used in the most anti-consumer way possible.

A single console on the market = Monopoly. Those are never good for consumers.

Pyr_Pressure, to gaming in Final Fantasy 16 Producer Naoki Yoshida Wishes There Was Only One Console - IGN

What exactly is it that prevents a PlayStation from playing an Xbox game?

A dell PC can play the same games that an Acer can.

Why can’t we have some sort of standardized console operating system like android where different companies can design their own console systems all of which can play the same games?

Oh, is it simply because of capitalist proprietary bullshit? Okay that’s fine.

NuPNuA,

That model has been tried in the past and it didn’t work because no one was making any licensing costs from the games produced to pump into R&D to progress the platform. Remember the 3D0?

The reason a PS can’t play an Xbox game is because Sony don’t have access or the legal right to implement the hardware or software environment that MS have patented for the Xbox.

jmcs,

Except Valve is doing with the Steam deck. And if Google could be bothered to take it seriously, Android could also be a contender.

NuPNuA,

The Steam Deck is a PC at the end of the day though which has always been a different model. They still lock the main OS to their store despite it being more open if you want to dig deeper.

MonkderZweite,

What, emulating x86 games on Android?

MrMagnesium12,
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The latest Xbox and PS consoles are basically x86 PC’s with a AMD CPU and a locked down operating system. The Xbox uses a system based on Windows 10 (games are running in separate OS containers, basically Window VMs in HyperV) and the PS is using Sony’s Orbis OS, what based upon FreeBSD.

NuPNuA,

None of which changes the fact that the console market is driven by platform holders selling consoles for low profit or even a loss and making it up on the back end with their cut of all games, accessories, etc released for the format.

sandriver, to gaming in Final Fantasy 16 Producer Naoki Yoshida Wishes There Was Only One Console - IGN

Would be nice if there were some kind of open source, cross-platform, low-level graphics API, maybe overseen by some kind of pan-industry group (or “consortium” if you’re feeling fancy). Just spitballing but you could call it “Cape” or “Hephaestos” or something.

Would be great too if there were one or two open-source, MIT- or dual-licensed game engines that target this API. Maybe even some runtimes so you could target PC and the big three console platforms.

I dunno, maybe this is all a pipe dream.

NuPNuA,

That’s just middleware isn’t it? Plenty of it exists but you still need to optimise the outcome to each hardware setup.

flakusha,
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In fact it would help game development as much as “similar” approach helps the web grow the way you don’t need to reinvent the wheel every time. Although you can.

Computerchairgeneral, to gaming in Final Fantasy 16 Producer Naoki Yoshida Wishes There Was Only One Console - IGN

It sounds like a dumb idea, but I kind of see where he's coming from at least that it would be easier for developers. Admittedly consoles today are a lot closer in specs than they use to be, but you still have issues crop up like Larian Studios having to delay BG3 for Series X because they have to get split-screen working on Series S before it can launch. So I can see the appeal of only having to develop games on one console. But I don't really see the benefit to players, since whoever made the one console would have a monopoly on the market.

Caligvla, to gaming in Final Fantasy 16 Producer Naoki Yoshida Wishes There Was Only One Console - IGN
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What a fucking clown, every time this idiot opens his mouth I cringe, he always has the worst takes imaginable. Almost makes me glad that FF16 undersold (for SE standards).

sandriver,

Man just loves the taste of his own feet I guess.

redditReallySucks, to gaming in Final Fantasy 16 Producer Naoki Yoshida Wishes There Was Only One Console - IGN
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Ah yes, more monopolies in the already completly broken gaming sector. Thats surely gonna help. I know he didnt mean it but I dont see how this could be a good idea. He means open plattforms and pc already exists.

resketreke, to gaming in Final Fantasy 16 Producer Naoki Yoshida Wishes There Was Only One Console - IGN
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And I wish Square Enix (among others) didn't charge 80€ for their AAA titles. If there was no competition, prices would probably be even worse.

Veraxus, to gaming in Final Fantasy 16 Producer Naoki Yoshida Wishes There Was Only One Console - IGN
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It's called a PC. All consoles are based on them. Develop for PC first... problem solved.

Goronmon,

It's called a PC. All consoles are based on them. Develop for PC first... problem solved.

If the goal is to make game development easier, then PC seems the worst possible option to choose.

HellAwaits, to gaming in Final Fantasy 16 Producer Naoki Yoshida Wishes There Was Only One Console - IGN

Game platforms… I probably shouldn’t say this, but I wish there was only one," Yoshida said, translated by IGN. "It would be better for both the developers and the players.

“and the players” 🤡 🤡

Callie,
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Would it not be? All your friends would be on the same platform, playing together, having the same games and experiences together

Ardon,

Because one company would have a monopoly.

johnthedoe,

I think if he meant one standard like DVD and companies like Sony or Microsoft would make the dvd player. Other companies can join in. We would have choice and competition. And the one game would work the same on any device.

At least that’s my wish.

bob_lemon,

That’s called a PC.

Callie,
@Callie@pawb.social avatar

Not even, you still have to consider different components and operating systems, sometimes even what versions of the OS people are running since it’s not always cross compatible.

NuPNuA,

Then who gets the licensing costs for the Dev kits? Who gets the 30% cut of the digital store? Who gets the cut of accessories sold? Each game sold? Who’s responsible for updating the OS?

The console market works how it does because they sell the tech at a loss and make up money on the ongoing sales. The 3DO tried the open source model in the early 90s and ended up with ridiculously pricey consoles as all the manufacturers needed to make their profit upfront. Eventually, there will be no price difference between a console and a PC if equivilent specs.

NuPNuA,

I play games with my mates on PC and PS all the time despite being on Xbox, it’s called crossplay.

Callie,
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Which not every game supports.

Omegamanthethird,

In an ideal world, it would be.

csolisr, to gaming in Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Accessibility Features Let You Slow Down Gameplay - IGN

Two things:

  • Interesting to see this particular addition. Handy for the players with slower reflexes, utterly useless for speedrunners (unless it messes up with physics somehow)
  • I also wonder how will achievements be managed while the accessibility turned on. Plenty of people are out there, vocally complaining about “handing out the platinum” to people “that do less effort than I did to earn it”.
jjjalljs,

Some games have separate achievements for separate difficulty levels. I can see how any approach will leave some people annoyed, though. I don’t care much about achievements (in 40 years I don’t think I’ve 100% a single game) so I don’t really have a dog in the race.

Zapp,

I hope so. As someone who will use the accessibility features, I don’t mind separate badges at alll. I don’t need the same badge as a speed-runner. I just want to play the game.

NuPNuA,

I’m not an achievement/trophy hunter personally but I can see some people’s issue there. The whole point of them is to indicate you’ve done something particular in game. If it’s just reaching a point in a story or whatever no big deal, but if it’s something that requires some skill, having it available when you can turn off the need for all those skills does undermine the system a bit.

ZycroNeXuS,

I used to be one of those people who thought that it was unfair that they were handing out the achievements for “less effort,” 'til somebody pointed out to me that it isn’t for less effort. Somebody who needs accommodations would be playing a harder game than somebody who doesn’t at default settings. Their difficulty curve is steeper. Accomodations are a way of bringing the difficulty curve more in line with what a non-disabled player would experience.

And besides - most people aren’t going to want to completely ruin the game for themselves by sucking out any semblance of difficulty. Most people are still gonna play the game in a way where they get challenged. And even if they do, who cares? That doesn’t devalue the work that you did, you know? You still put in that effort yourself, so you can still feel secure in it.

Not coming after you in particular, just talking on a couple of the general points you brought up.

jeebus, to gaming in Larian 'Cooking' Ability to Change Baldur's Gate 3 Character Appearance In-Game - IGN
@jeebus@kbin.social avatar

Hell yes. I was thinking this morning of starting over, my dude looks too goofy.

FreeBooteR69, to gaming in Final Fantasy 16 Producer Naoki Yoshida Wishes There Was Only One Console - IGN
@FreeBooteR69@kbin.social avatar

Everyone on Steam Deck, fuck these shitty walled gardens.

jeebus,
@jeebus@kbin.social avatar

With the itty bitty tiny text? I love my deck but damn it doesn't work with my old man eyes.

FreeBooteR69,
@FreeBooteR69@kbin.social avatar

They invented these things called reading glasses, have you heard of them? Anyway, PC mouse and keyboard is king, but we're talking console format here i think, and a PC console is better than a walled garden console.

harmonea,
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Wow, that's a kind of dismissal that only those who have no idea how bad it gets can wield. Reading glasses help with clarity, but clarity is not the only issue with old eyes and other visual impairment. Sometimes you just plain need things bigger.

One day you'll look back on this exchange and cringe at the kind of person you used to be. Be better. Accessibility is important.

Signed, someone who's needed full-time prescription glasses for 35+ years and only recently started having to read small print on food and medicine containers with the zoom on my phone camera.

ReverseModule, to gaming in Final Fantasy 16 Producer Naoki Yoshida Wishes There Was Only One Console - IGN
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I agree 1000000000% with them. One console called PC. :)

DanNZN,

Even PC is broken down into Windows, Linux and Mac.

Borat,
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So, everyone on Linux then.

Neon,

Linux was so unable to handle my 3 Monitors (granted, all with different Resolution and refresh-rate, but still) that i had to switch back to Windows today.

gnome-shell started crashing, Firefox and Gnome-Web started crashing for whatever reason. it was a Mess.

but otherwise i still love NixOS

communist,
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This is not a normal experience. I use 3 monitors and Linux runs better than windows significantly.

sandriver,

Some of that is on GNOME. I had to swap back to KDE after a couple years on GNOME due to lack of VR compatibility. GNOME is good for newbies and productivity, but completely unusable for gaming.

flakusha,
@flakusha@beehaw.org avatar

Gnome and productivity laughs in sway

No offence, gnome is great, but there are many inconsistencies on the lover level, I wish it was figured out once and for all. It applies to big DEs like KDE and etc too.

Borat,
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Never had that issue, your experience may vary based on your hardware and software. I use Arch, sway (wayland), AMDGPU, multiple monitors with mixed refresh rates, everything works great.

Neon,

NixOS with Gnome Wayland, a 4K 60hz TV, a 144hz WQHD and a 60Hz 1080p Monitor
it would often happen that one Screen would just freeze. my Web Browsers would just crash, especially if i was opening a Video.
and the Gnome-Shell itself would crash and put me into the Login Screen.
sometimes the whole Computer would crash and become unresponsive and not even alt+ctrl+n would help anymore

Borat,
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Do you by any chance have an Nvidia GPU? I hear Wayland is still very buggy on Nvidia, I’d only recommend it on AMDGPU, otherwise use Xorg for now.

Neon,

yes, Nvidia.

i don't really like XOrg, it just always feels inferior to Wayland or even Windows.
which is why i am currently using windows until [the Problems get fixed | i upgrade my PC (to an AMD GPU)]

giant_smeeg, to gaming in Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Accessibility Features Let You Slow Down Gameplay - IGN

Half speed. Then played at normal speed for 120fps play through videos.

TwilightVulpine, to gaming in Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Accessibility Features Let You Slow Down Gameplay - IGN

This was great when Celeste did it, I hope more games embrace it.

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